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What would you change about this series?

Homophobic implies that I am somehow afraid of homosexuals. As a retired Army veteran, I am not afraid of much, including anything you or any other debased reprobate can threaten me with. I am not one of those politically correct liberal socialist pukes that thinks that censorship and limiting free speech is anything other than un-consitutional and un-American. Go suck a rope!
Probably a dishonorably discharged veteran due to un-American values and zero respect for diversity. Won't last long.
 
But is there not the danger that you turn the characters into Care Bears if you have no real interpersonal conflict. TNG had a rule about no interpersonal conflict in the first couple of seasons, season one of TNG was not great television. DS9 had interpersonal conflict and is considered one of the better Trek series.

Doesn't a show where everyone gets along all the time promote a group think mindset? Is that not dangerous?
It is very dangerous, and it concerns me that the Star Trek utopian ideal is sometimes portrayed as a world free of any type of conflict.
 
I would make the show less episodic. It feels like season 3 of Enterprise regarding that aspect, while I do find it superior to the previous two Star Trek TV incarnations. I would also enjoy if we slowly but certainly start moving at least the uniforms to an aesthetic which is closer to TOS at least color wise. The current uniforms are nice but "Blingy" it would be cool if the Gold, Silver and Copper start to look more Yellow, Blue and Reddish - Yet I don't know if that would make it look like Enterprise.

Regarding the Klingons, I love the House of Mo'Kai uniforms, they are the closest to what I would expect form the Klingons, and I like that they seem to do Ritual Scarring which conceptually speaking would have been a very interesting take on the Klingon ridges - (maybe for the next visual reboot).
What I do not like about the Klingons:
Quite frankly if you check the concept art here, you will notice that they look better than in the show and that has to do with the pupilary distance between the proposed art and actual humans wearing makeup. They don't match and that is why Klingons look "dumb" or "somehow wrong" as their noses are too wide and makes them appear unable to look ahead.
 
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They don't have to look the like the Klingons of ToS or the TNG/DS9/Voy era but I would go with a design that allows the actors to use the full range of their facial expressions with greater ease. Even the Krill makeup from the Orville allows the actors to be more expressive.
 
I would change absolute everything.
I would set it after Nemesis, I would change the aesthetic look of everything, and I would cast better actors and writers.

I would also focus on high concept ideas.

I watch Discovery every week on Netflix but I can't honestly say I enjoy it.
 
I would change absolute everything.
I would set it after Nemesis, I would change the aesthetic look of everything, and I would cast better actors and writers.

I would also focus on high concept ideas.

I watch Discovery every week on Netflix but I can't honestly say I enjoy it.
Ironically, Discovery seems to have taken a lot of it's visual aesthetic from Nemesis

There are a lot of visual callbacks (whether intentionally, or not) to Nemesis in the first two episodes. The Starfleet ships have a similar look and texture to the Enterprise E in that film, you have the ship getting blown apart with forcefields going up allowing the crew to see into space. Burnham does that "jumping through the vacuum" thing like Data did, and the way space in general is portrayed in the show is very similar to how it looks in the film.

Maybe it was intentional.
 
Ironically, Discovery seems to have taken a lot of it's visual aesthetic from Nemesis

There are a lot of visual callbacks (whether intentionally, or not) to Nemesis in the first two episodes. The Starfleet ships have a similar look and texture to the Enterprise E in that film, you have the ship getting blown apart with forcefields going up allowing the crew to see into space. Burnham does that "jumping through the vacuum" thing like Data did, and the way space in general is portrayed in the show is very similar to how it looks in the film.

Maybe it was intentional.
I feel like it has more in common with Enterprise and Kelvin than anything else, with very submarine style feel to the interiors, and very hands on equipment.

I've been rewatching the battles and really liking the flow of the ships.
 
So is this thread for constructive wishes for realistic things to change on the show as it is right now or just another opportunity for people to air grievances about what they wished the show would have been in the first place?
Yes :beer:
 
So is this thread for constructive wishes for realistic things to change on the show as it is right now or just another opportunity for people to air grievances about what they wished the show would have been in the first place?

I stand by showing it on a Sunday evening - simple to do. Off to the airport at 4am, won't be back for a week, would have been nice to watch the episode before going.
 
Replace hackneyed diminutives and slang like "hack" with actual words. "Trek" should have a higher standard; its legacy has been more or less "Shakespeare in Space"(tm) despite having to appeal to mass audiences but previous generations in the same society could somehow understand big scary words like "technology" so what happened? Treating multisyllabic words as if they're some abomination to edified linguistics has been embarrassing and the same pap has been heard in Star Wars and Doctor Who. Well, definitely DW. SW:TFA may have had someone uttering it, it's not a memorable movie since I've seen the previous six already.

Case in point: Find any scene with Scotty or Geordi discussing and saying the word "technology". Now imagine them doing the scene but saying "tech" as if they were in a bar looking to score a cheap hookup and without any proverbial "safety net" in the wallet. Yeah, it becomes rather cringe-inducing, doesn't it...

And I promise never to use the truncated slang term ever again. "Tech"... cor, the days when "tech" was a diminutive of "technician" was bad enough, are there too many words in the dictionary for people to instantly recall? The yellow/red/blue/black/pink/green/ultraviolent alert scheme is oh-so-long a list already...

That or is the target audience's median age 6?
 
Replace hackneyed diminutives and slang like "hack" with actual words. "Trek" should have a higher standard; its legacy has been more or less "Shakespeare in Space"(tm) despite having to appeal to mass audiences but previous generations in the same society could somehow understand big scary words like "technology" so what happened? Treating multisyllabic words as if they're some abomination to edified linguistics has been embarrassing and the same pap has been heard in Star Wars and Doctor Who. Well, definitely DW. SW:TFA may have had someone uttering it, it's not a memorable movie since I've seen the previous six already.

Case in point: Find any scene with Scotty or Geordi discussing and saying the word "technology". Now imagine them doing the scene but saying "tech" as if they were in a bar looking to score a cheap hookup and without any proverbial "safety net" in the wallet. Yeah, it becomes rather cringe-inducing, doesn't it...

And I promise never to use the truncated slang term ever again. "Tech"... cor, the days when "tech" was a diminutive of "technician" was bad enough, are there too many words in the dictionary for people to instantly recall? The yellow/red/blue/black/pink/green/ultraviolent alert scheme is oh-so-long a list already...

That or is the target audience's median age 6?

I distinctly remember once in a season one episode Picard referred to emergency saucer separation as "sauce sep."
 
I have to go with more episodes per season.

I think if they would have had 22-27 like the other series' instead of 15, it wouldn't feel so rushed. And there would be more getting to know some of the ancillary characters better.
 
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