Unless your goal is annihilation rather than creation. Then, it works fine.
What is your personal head canon?
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Only if you can control it enough to transport it to the target.
There is a lot of assumptions that it must work just fine and everyone knows how it works, when the evidence is to the contrary that the knowledge was limited, that the application was limited until protomatter was introduced, and that the use of it is easy.
The trial test inside the dead moon worked and was stable. Carol, "Can I cook?" She seems to think that she did it, not David. Looks like David secretively spiked the test with protomatter and Carol was unaware. I guess protomatter is unpredictable; sometimes it works as planned and becomes stable after the accelerated growth, sometimes it goes unstable and the accelerated growth doesn't stop and everything falls apart, and maybe, the damn thing just fizzes out and nothing happens. Roll the dice. 
Captain Christopher and he USAF sergeant telefragged their early selves when they beamed from the Enterprise.
reference: https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Telefrag
Episode: "Tomorrow is Yesterday"
reference: https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Telefrag
Episode: "Tomorrow is Yesterday"
Which makes it very useless as a weapon. As well as completely reactivating any useful resources on the planet itself.The trial test inside the dead moon worked and was stable. Carol, "Can I cook?" She seems to think that she did it, not David. Looks like David secretively spiked the test with protomatter and Carol was unaware. I guess protomatter is unpredictable; sometimes it works as planned and becomes stable after the accelerated growth, sometimes it goes unstable and the accelerated growth doesn't stop and everything falls apart, and maybe, the damn thing just fizzes out and nothing happens. Roll the dice.
In my personal head canon, Kirk never steps onto the Enterprise B because Gary Seven tells him not to because his friend Spock is looking a bit peaky and a trip to Vulcan might be in order. Soran is able to stay in the Nexus, thus averting the disaster that brings about the Generations movie.
In the alternative, Kirk does disappear into the Nexus, but Spock and Scotty figure out a way to get him out. Soran helps in exchange for being allowed to re-enter the Nexus.
Unpopular though it may be with some, Spock and Saavik marry. Who better understands him and who better understands her?
Spock and Kirk and Scotty and Uhura and Saavik spend a few more years on the Enterprise A along with whichever crew wants to exploring the arm of the galaxy that they haven't explored (there are a lot of planets out there!).
Or Spock goes on to be ambassador and Kirk remains "dead" (that is, Spock, etc. tell no one that Kirk is alive) and Kirk and his Cabal (see the novel Cloak) fight Section 31 with help from Uhura (now in regular Star Fleet Intelligence), Chekhov, and others who recognize how dangerous they are.
Later in life, Spock tries for some years to create opportunities for a reunification of Vulcans and Romulans. He recognizes his limits (they have to work for it, too).
Spock is either successful with his attempt to save Romulus, and even if he isn't, Nero has the sense to get his family off planet and avoid the whole trip through the wormhole to create (?) (never have been sure if he created it or just jumped into it) alternate version of the a universe that existed 130 years ago. If Spock is successful, no wormhole plot necessary. If he isn't, oh well, he did his best. Or maybe Romulus is never in danger of having its sun go supernova (a somewhat tired trope anyway).
Anyway, that's what I got for better or worse.
PS I did like Star Trek 2009, but I despised Generations.
In the alternative, Kirk does disappear into the Nexus, but Spock and Scotty figure out a way to get him out. Soran helps in exchange for being allowed to re-enter the Nexus.
Unpopular though it may be with some, Spock and Saavik marry. Who better understands him and who better understands her?
Spock and Kirk and Scotty and Uhura and Saavik spend a few more years on the Enterprise A along with whichever crew wants to exploring the arm of the galaxy that they haven't explored (there are a lot of planets out there!).
Or Spock goes on to be ambassador and Kirk remains "dead" (that is, Spock, etc. tell no one that Kirk is alive) and Kirk and his Cabal (see the novel Cloak) fight Section 31 with help from Uhura (now in regular Star Fleet Intelligence), Chekhov, and others who recognize how dangerous they are.
Later in life, Spock tries for some years to create opportunities for a reunification of Vulcans and Romulans. He recognizes his limits (they have to work for it, too).
Spock is either successful with his attempt to save Romulus, and even if he isn't, Nero has the sense to get his family off planet and avoid the whole trip through the wormhole to create (?) (never have been sure if he created it or just jumped into it) alternate version of the a universe that existed 130 years ago. If Spock is successful, no wormhole plot necessary. If he isn't, oh well, he did his best. Or maybe Romulus is never in danger of having its sun go supernova (a somewhat tired trope anyway).
Anyway, that's what I got for better or worse.
PS I did like Star Trek 2009, but I despised Generations.
I think it’s nice that Kirk and the Genesis device are stored together for eternity.
Kind of poetic, no?
I don't know. The Genesis device--what, are they planning on using it? But Kirk's bones? That's some weird bodysnatching stuff that Section 31 is into.
I'm not quite sure what they're going for with this. If they use Genesis on Kirk, he's alive again, but he has none of his old memories, so it would be more like they didn't Bring Back Kirk, but instead created his twin.
In my head-canon, I'm thinking Section 31 is waiting until 2410, when the Nexus is within reach again, so they can go in and collect the memories from Kirk's Echo with Futuristic 25th Century Technology... and then they have all the pieces to resurrect him. Mind and body.
After that? Who knows? I agree with you, it's bodysnatching. And if he's resurrected, no way is Section 31 letting him go free, so it's kidnapping.
I understand what Terry Matalas was trying to do. He wanted to give Generations the middle finger. But this is a case where two wrongs don't make a right.
And no Guinan in TNG, too.
In my head canon, Doc takes the locomotive to another dimension after Part III, not the past or future. "Hey, Doc? Where are you going now? Back to the future?" "Nope! Already been there!"
Wait a minute... that's not Star Trek head canon!
Wait a minute... that's not Star Trek head canon!
Yeah its a stupid in universe move, what is so special about Kirk to keep his dead body? Unless he had secret Borg implants or something. Or unless the Nexus gave his body special powers.....
The trial test inside the dead moon worked and was stable. Carol, "Can I cook?" She seems to think that she did it, not David. Looks like David secretively spiked the test with protomatter and Carol was unaware. I guess protomatter is unpredictable; sometimes it works as planned and becomes stable after the accelerated growth, sometimes it goes unstable and the accelerated growth doesn't stop and everything falls apart, and maybe, the damn thing just fizzes out and nothing happens. Roll the dice.
Maybe the Protomatter wasn't used in the cave? David said it was used to overcome certain problems, maybe those problems were of scale? The math likely said Carol's formula wouldn't be stable on a massive scale and David added the Protomatter, not knowing it would magnify the problem.
Basic plot of "Engines of Destiny" by Gene DeWeese.
Leaving his body on that planet was the stupid in-universe move, IMHO. As for him being kept by Section 31, who knows what those assholes will get up to? Cloning? Photo ops for their friends?
Normally a guy like Kirk would have a hero’s send off. But then again, I assume he had one after he was “killed” on the Enterprise B, so there’s that.
They'll violate his remains so hard he'll end up looking like Paul Wesley.
They'll violate his remains so hard he'll end up looking like Paul Wesley.
Poor Kirk! And I'm not talking about the violations!
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