the shows happen in order. First contact rewrites the timeline, ENT takes place afterward, then the new 23rd century (DSC/SNW).
What is your personal head canon?
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Kirk and Spock were friends with benefits.
When Zefram Cochrane got to Alpha centauri, early warp drives had the problem of energy buildup on the bubble, and Alpha Centauri was disintegrated by Cochrane. He fixes it when he got back, or relayed data so future ships fixed it via deflector dish controls.
It's the only logical reason why Alpha Centauri has not shown up in trek.... V_V
It's the only logical reason why Alpha Centauri has not shown up in trek.... V_V
“It’s just a show” is perfectly good (and sometimes necessary) reminder when people are actually getting angry and insulting each other over meaningless minutiae.
It truly boggles the mind.
In other words, when they are either forgetting it's only a show or getting far too worked up (emotionally) about meaningless minutiae, neither of which was the case here.
That they're meaningless trivia in themselves I fully agree upon. I simply have fun discussing them.
All this is not to say the remark was out of place by itself at the point at which it was made.
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Non sequiter. People who look down on Trekkies have been doing it since 1966, and I just used the word mundane here for the first time as a descriptive of them among fellow Trekkies.
Mundanes? Are we the Psi Corp now?
*Sigh* Just using it as a descriptive for the sake of this conversation. Didn't imagine for a second it would erupt into a controversy.
Can I expect a congressional hearing on "mundanaphobia" in sci fi fandom next?
I wasn't making the term 'mundanes' into a controversy. My Psi Corp joke was exactly that... a joke. As clearly indicated by the laughing face directly after the Psi Corp question. (Looks like at least a couple got the joke...)
Okee doke. Never mind.
KIRK: All right, Colonel. The truth is, I'm a little green man from Alpha Centauri. A beautiful place. You ought to see it.
More an idle musing, than a non sequitur.
My point is, arguing back and forth and name calling is not exactly a helpful place to be. Yeah, I've been teased for being a Trek fan. Thankfully, had some adults who were willing to encourage that love of Star Trek and science fiction and grow it, as well as support of non Trek fans who still found a love of science, or space or such to encourage.
Hmmm...with a little help from my mundanes might be a good episode title
I got teased by someone, but there were no teachers around, so I went up to him, grabbed him by the shirt, pinned him against the window, put my knee up against him, told him not to do that again, and I was left alone from that point on.
I'm not advocating violence but we were kids and this was 30 years ago.
I'm not advocating violence but we were kids and this was 30 years ago.
Honestly, that applies today. If someone is bullying you on a constant basis, sometimes the only response is to knock them in the nose. A lot of bullies are themselves cowards and only back down when the person they are bullying fights back. (This is from personal experience.)
I do the grownup version of that these days. If a co-worker tries to take advantage of me, I take mental notes, and leave them to the wolves when they're overloaded. If they won't help me, I won't help them. Or I'll forcefully lay down what they have to do and how I'm not going to do their job for them.
When I'm doing a video for someone on the side, I'll stand up to an overly pushy client, so they know they can't walk all over me. This happened a lot when I used to record sports. They wanted the game footage fast-fast-fast. Easier now when I can just hand them an SD Card. Harder back when it was all tape that I had to digitize and deliver. But if I lose someone's business, so be it. That's why I have the "day job": so I'm not at a client's mercy.
A really sharp one-liner will put a bully in their place too.
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Back on topic.
I'm not a fan of ENT or SNW, but since I am a fan of DSC, I agree with your interpretation and the order to watch them in general.
I think early-DSC and SNW show the new version of the 23rd Century after the changes from the Temporal War. So, a little different from the way you have it, but "a difference that makes no difference is no difference." Whereas I think of PIC as continuing on from TNG/DS9/VOY, just 20 years later.
My viewing order now is TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, PIC, DSC.
I'm not a fan of ENT or SNW, but since I am a fan of DSC, I agree with your interpretation and the order to watch them in general.
I think early-DSC and SNW show the new version of the 23rd Century after the changes from the Temporal War. So, a little different from the way you have it, but "a difference that makes no difference is no difference." Whereas I think of PIC as continuing on from TNG/DS9/VOY, just 20 years later.
The Lower Decks messes it up by having classic TOS and SNW designs and a full on crossover with the latter.
And PIC also showed a hologram of the DSC/SNW Enterprise in Season 1.
PIC is kind of an outlier in that it tries to play it both ways. I'd say that its the nu24th, but that the TCW got things basically back on track by that point.
In my interpretation, FC breaks everything and causes the TCW and creates ENT all during the past portions of the movie. By the time Picard returns to their own time, all of the TCW/Daniels stuff got the 24th back on track, but with a totally different history in terms of exploration and technology in the 22nd and 23rd century. This is also when 7 of 9 pops into existence.
I guess time travel can't solve everything.
Details, details.
If I said I cared about what the TOS Enterprise looked like in a holo-image that's seen for a grand total of two seconds in a show that's meant to be an extension of TNG, I'd be lying. I know I'm supposed to say I care, but I don't.
It's like Bufford Tannen in that brief little snippet in Back to the Future, Part II before we see him for real in Part III.
Sorry, I'll have to turn in my Trekkie Card.
So in 'Doctor Bashir, I presume?' Miles says
O'BRIEN: I don't there's been a case dealing with any of this in a hundred years. You can't be sure how they'll react.
In relation to a genetically engineered officer serving in Starfleet
My retroactive head canon is he's referring to Una's trial in SNW Season 2.
O'BRIEN: I don't there's been a case dealing with any of this in a hundred years. You can't be sure how they'll react.
In relation to a genetically engineered officer serving in Starfleet
My retroactive head canon is he's referring to Una's trial in SNW Season 2.
Works for me! 
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