What is your personal head canon?

[Warthog81]

For my head canon only TOS and the first 6 movies are canon, sometimes I think like that. I also think it must have been nice in some ways between 1966 and 1987 when TOS was all there was.

I always really liked the Romulans as a villain, thought they were superb. Did not like in the new Trek how Romulus was destroyed. So using head canon I can ensure it still exists! Also hated the fact Kirk died in Generations, so like to use head canon to totally ignore that movie.

 

[Jedi Marso]

For my head canon only TOS and the first 6 movies are canon, sometimes I think like that. I also think it must have been nice in some ways between 1966 and 1987 when TOS was all there was.

There is something to this, definitely, especially for the old FASA gamers.

In a lot of ways, I think Trek might have ended up better off if we'd gotten the planned Phase II rather than TMP, the next several movies, and TNG. Would Trek still be a going concern today if that had happened? I don't know. But I think Phase 2 had the potential for greatness there.

 

[Warthog81]

There is something to this, definitely, especially for the old FASA gamers.

In a lot of ways, I think Trek might have ended up better off if we'd gotten the planned Phase II rather than TMP, the next several movies, and TNG. Would Trek still be a going concern today if that had happened? I don't know. But I think Phase 2 had the potential for greatness there.

Yes I agree. I often wonder about Phase 2. I also wonder what would have happened had TOS not been cancelled.

 

[publiusr]

There is something to this, definitely, especially for the old FASA gamers.

In a lot of ways, I think Trek might have ended up better off if we'd gotten the planned Phase II rather than TMP, the next several movies, and TNG. Would Trek still be a going concern today if that had happened? I don't know. But I think Phase 2 had the potential for greatness there.

SNW's past is FOR ALL MANKIND
TOS' past is Sky Captain.

 

[Lord Garth]

There is something to this, definitely, especially for the old FASA gamers.

In a lot of ways, I think Trek might have ended up better off if we'd gotten the planned Phase II rather than TMP, the next several movies, and TNG. Would Trek still be a going concern today if that had happened? I don't know. But I think Phase 2 had the potential for greatness there.

I think Phase II, if it has a full run, ends in the early-'80s. There are no spin-offs or films. After that, I think Star Trek gets rebooted twice. Once in the '90s or 2000s, and again in the 2010s or 2020s.

 

[Lord Garth]

Speaking of Phase II.

In my head-canon: There's a Phase II version of the Constitution Class in the 2260s that we've never seen on-screen. It's effectively the "Constitution 1.5" Class. It adds to the idea that the TOS Enterprise was getting old by the end of the five-year mission with a newer version of the Constitution Class out there that isn't the TMP/Refit Constitution II.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

It makes you wonder, how many probes are sent to map the stars before somebody plots out a 5 year mission course?

 

[Oddish]

Considering that space is REALLY big, I'd say they send out a lot. Thousands, certainly, maybe tens of thousands.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Considering that space is REALLY big, I'd say they send out a lot. Thousands, certainly, maybe tens of thousands.

Given we have hundreds of member worlds in the UFP by the late 24th century and tens of thousands of probes for one species alone wouldn't be surprising at all given how common space travel is by that point, even for the average citizen.

Maybe we're under-estimating given the vastness of space.

We should probably think in the hundreds of thousands to millions.

Everybody would cover a different section of space and feed back data to a large common database with the UFP in a NASA style open data sharing.

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

- TAS is most definitely, certainly canon
- NuTrek (DIS to present) takes place in an alternate universe (separate from the Trekverse and Kelvinverse)
- All the date discrepancies (World War III, etc.) come from stardate to Gregorian conversion errors (cf. floating-point .1 + .2)
- Piggybacking off of The Slaver Weapon, the Known Space universe is compatible with the Star Trek universe (they never cover the exact same dates), and the Man-Kzin Wars happened.
- All of those human-looking species they encounter aren't all different species, they're just the results of human colonies from hundreds of years before, that have developed their own culture
- The various technical manuals and guides and handbooks are canon
- The NX-01 was refit with a secondary hull as in Ships of the Line

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

Wow, I could have so much fun with this thread.... multiple posts with an elaborate timeline that would bore everyone to death before they got even a third of the way through it, so I'll boil it down to the basics. I warn you, my personal 'head-canon' is all over the place.

1. The events of the Reeves-Stevens's novel Federation are canon, and the 'true' crossover between TOS and TNG. The Generations movie is de-canonized.

2. The events of John M. Ford's The Final Reflection are canonized, and Klingon culture is as he represents it. This includes the appearance of Carter Winston and the infamous events of the Dissolution Babel Conference, the timeline of Klingon first contact, the practice of Tharavul, and the existence of Imperial Klingons (ridges), Human Fusion Klingons (TOS), and Romulan-fusion Klingons (only seen in the novel).

Federation and GEN are both true.

The Final Reflection/Klingonaase Klingons are a different culture on the QoNos.

Oh, and the Star Fleet Universe also fits in.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The Final Reflection/Klingonaase Klingons are a different culture on the QoNos.

I'd love to see them turn up in an episode of SNW. The writer should just go "Screw it. I'm writing whatever the hell I feel like. Let the fans work it out."

- The NX-01 was refit with a secondary hull as in Ships of the Line

That's already canon. IIRC. the refit NX turns up in the Starfleet Museum in an episode of PIC.

 

[cooleddie74]

It does. And flashbacks to Picard as a boy in Season 2 have him playing with and building a model of the NX-01 that has a secondary hull.

 

[Lord Garth]

NuTrek (DIS to present) takes place in an alternate universe (separate from the Trekverse and Kelvinverse)

I agree with this but, I actually like most of these shows, so the way I came to this conclusion was VERY different. I blame any changes on being a result of the Temporal War.

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

I agree with this but, I actually like most of these shows, so the way I came to this conclusion was VERY different. I blame any changes on being a result of the Temporal War.

Never said they were bad. I don't care how its an alternate universe, I just think it is.

 

[Lord Garth]

One caveat: I do actually consider PIC to be a sequel to TNG. There are a couple of things I could nitpick if I wanted to, but I don't think it's worth it. At least not from my point of view.

So, because of this, if I ever theoretically wanted to re-watch the Star Trek series, this is the order in which I would do it:

1. TOS + Films
2. TNG/DS9/VOY + Films (as they overlap)
3. PIC
--- insert Temporal War here ---
4. DSC (both before and after the time-jump)

All theoretical because that's just too much for me to do. So, it's never going to happen. Never mind adding in everything I don't care for as much.

 

[Henoch]

It makes you wonder, how many probes are sent to map the stars before somebody plots out a 5 year mission course?

Unless the probes are the size of starships, they run out of fuel and have limited range or are "slow" (read, low FTL at best) or are probably both. Probes launched from starships like the Enterprise are about the size and performance of a photon torpedo. YMMV .

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Unless the probes are the size of starships, they run out of fuel and have limited range or are "slow" (read, low FTL at best) or are probably both. Probes launched from starships like the Enterprise are about the size and performance of a photon torpedo. YMMV

But we're talking about 24th & 25th century level of tech.

Spoiler: Modern Cube-Sat format

By the time of the 24th & 25th century, they would have enough fuel to last a significant amount of time.
Even if packed into tiny Cube Sats like today's format.

There are plenty of ways of making FTL transports to fly the small CubeSat Probes to the target Planet or Planetoid or Astronomical Phenomena and drop them off and leave them there to feed back communication data over time to HQ.

 

[JesterFace]

Fortunately head canon is allowed, if not.... we would all be in jail.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Fortunately head canon is allowed, if not.... we would all be in jail.

Well, they don't prosecute people for having head canons.