This might surprise you, but I concur.

This might surprise you, but I concur.
Voyager is an odd duck for me. I dislike more episodes in it than any other series, but I think I have more favourite episodes in it than any other series.
DS9 might edge over it in favourites, but not sure. I haven't actually counted.
I was July 2001.........Took about a 10 year break and Discovery brought me back as well. The hate for Enterprise is what drove me away, ironically when I came back I saw people who hated Enterprise in 2005 talking about it like it was classic Trek when I came back......#fans
This is my favourite article to share. I think there's a bigger source out there, but I can't find it right now.I had to explain in another forum that TNG had a backlash from the Trek fanbase, they didn't believe me until I posted newspaper clippings of TOS actors leading the charge with how they felt "betrayed", "only greed is driving this show", etc.
Had you suggested in the early 2000s this is how fandom would change its attitude towards ENT, they'd think you were just Braga himself (and then tell you to die). Suggest the same will happen with DIS, same reaction. If anything, it's always the newest iteration of Trek that'll get the most scrutiny until the next one comes along. I had to explain in another forum that TNG had a backlash from the Trek fanbase, they didn't believe me until I posted newspaper clippings of TOS actors leading the charge with how they felt "betrayed", "only greed is driving this show", etc.
I mean it makes sense.
Let's say a given Trek series happens to have three mediocre to shitty episodes in a row. If it's "historic Trek" it's not really that big of a deal so long as the series as a whole is good. However, if it's a new Trek series being actively produced, it means three weeks straight of "the sky is falling, Trek is dead, and these showrunners must be fired!"
I skipped out on ENT, but I remember that when VOY was on. The episodes were so up-and-down that if you had three in a row that weren't great, you'd see reactions just like that. The complaints about DS9 were more of the "but it's on a space station!", "this violates Gene's vision!" or "they shifted focus away from Bajor!" varieties. But often (not always), you'd have a lot of the same people who were complaining about DS9 and VOY at the same time. So that's how we got the "Let's go back to TOS/TNG!" breed.
About DS9: I still remember a Trekkie friend of mine insisting, "It's good, but it's not STAR TREK."
I have TNG Volume 2 somewhere, I liked the cover.Phil Farrand, who wrote the Nitpicker's Guides*, mentally called DS9, "Bajor: Terok Nor" instead of "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" during episodes that focused on the Bajorans and Cardassians to help him break the TOS/TNG Paradigm he had in his mind whenever he watched Star Trek.
* They were all in good fun, for those not familiar with them. He'd note all the little goofs in each episode. There were four categories: 1) Plot Oversights, 2) Changed Premises, 3) Equipment Oddities, and 4) Continuity & Production Problems. He did two volumes for TNG (because TNG wasn't finished yet when the first book came out), one for TOS, one for DS9... and then Paramount clamped down on unauthorized books in 1998, so he had to stop.
Another great book before the 1998 clamp-down was The Joy of Trek: How to Enhance Your Relationship With a Star Trek Fan, by Samuel Ramer.![]()
About DS9: I still remember a Trekkie friend of mine insisting, "It's good, but it's not STAR TREK."
STARLOG had articles in several of its issues describing the backlash that TNG was receiving at the time.This is my favourite article to share. I think there's a bigger source out there, but I can't find it right now.
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This is my favourite article to share. I think there's a bigger source out there, but I can't find it right now.
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About DS9: I still remember a Trekkie friend of mine insisting, "It's good, but it's not STAR TREK."
The Fonz is strong with Frakes, in that photo.This is my favourite article to share. I think there's a bigger source out there, but I can't find it right now.
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I don't think many people hold Voyager (or a good chunk of Enterprise) in high esteem, do they? There's just less reason to complain about them, because those shows are off the air and have been for a very long time.
For me, those shows are a compelling argument not to accept mediocre Trek in the hope that "Trek shows improve after season 2."
DIdn't Netflix release some list of the most popular Trek episodes and it was mostly episodes of Voyager?Both series are far more popular than you think they are.
I don't think many people hold Voyager (or a good chunk of Enterprise) in high esteem, do they? There's just less reason to complain about them, because those shows are off the air and have been for a very long time.
For me, those shows are a compelling argument not to accept mediocre Trek in the hope that "Trek shows improve after season 2."
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