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What if the Federation joined the Dominion?

The Dominion will continue to improve as well. They are big enough to send a large expeditionary force and still carry out a large R&D effort.

Probably. But it seems they haven't done so at a pace equal to that of the Federation, in those thousands of years in their past, or they would've been far more advanced by now. Either because it simply wasn't necessary, or because the autocratic structure of the Dominion still somehow stifles the pace of innovation.
 
In a way, wasn't this answered in "The Search, Part 2"?

From the Dominion's perspective, the simulation probes how the characters would react to an agreement between the Federation and Dominion which gave the Dominion influence in the Alpha Quadrant.

And the results show how that would be untenable and there would be significant resistance which would not just go along with things because Federation officials ok'ed it.
 
That's, like, the absolute worst kind of fan fic.
Definitely not since those stories shows an interest in prevailing and restoring good characters who have been destroyed for no reason at all, such as Kes, Garak, Gowron, Carey etc.
 
Definitely not since those stories shows an interest in prevailing and restoring good characters who have been destroyed for no reason at all, such as Kes, Garak, Gowron, Carey etc.
No, it's horrible and childish.

And, while I have no clue what happened to the Voyager characters, Garak and Gowron most certainly were not "destroyed."

And that's exactly the mentality that leads to bad fan fic. (aka all fan fic.).
 
No, it's horrible and childish.

And, while I have no clue what happened to the Voyager characters, Garak and Gowron most certainly were not "destroyed."

And that's exactly the mentality that leads to bad fan fic. (aka all fan fic.).
I don't agree that all fanfic is bad. Licensed novels are a form of fanfic, and I find many of them quite good.

I do have some issue with writing that directly attacks decisions made by other writers, though.

OTOH, deciding that TATV wasn't exactly an accurate representation of events kind of worked for me. But I'd call that an exception to the rule.
 
No, it's horrible and childish.

And, while I have no clue what happened to the Voyager characters, Garak and Gowron most certainly were not "destroyed."

And that's exactly the mentality that leads to bad fan fic. (aka all fan fic.).
Kes, Garak and Gowron were destroyed and I have already come up with solutions how to sade Kes and Gowron. I'm still working on Garak and Carey.

And doing that is not "horrible and childish".

On hte contary, it shows that I do care about certain characters and that I'm not a sheep who just accept all character destruction and other crap which are forced upon us by stupid producers and stupid writers who exists in a dystopian era and are affected by that.
 
I don't agree that all fanfic is bad. Licensed novels are a form of fanfic, and I find many of them quite good.
no, they're not. They're licensed and the people writing them almost always have at least a whiff of professional credibility. I don't care for them myself, but they're a far cry from fan fic.
I do have some issue with writing that directly attacks decisions made by other writers, though.
Every franchise as big as Star Trek is going to have a fair amount of lousy stuff in it. But even the worst is better than fan fic. (well, at least the vast majority of the time. There are a few exceptions, not because fan fic is good but because even the pros can utterly whiff sometimes.)
 
no, they're not. They're licensed and the people writing them almost always have at least a whiff of professional credibility. I don't care for them myself, but they're a far cry from fan fic.

Every franchise as big as Star Trek is going to have a fair amount of lousy stuff in it. But even the worst is better than fan fic. (well, at least the vast majority of the time. There are a few exceptions, not because fan fic is good but because even the pros can utterly whiff sometimes.)
The authors writing the licensed fiction are playing in the Star Trek sandbox writing stuff that they know will never be considered canonical (on extremely rare occasions aspects of the things they wrote might ultimately be incorporated into the canon).

Take away the license and it's fanfiction, and I suspect the authors themselves would admit that, because why would they be writing it if they weren't fans (okay, some of them might be writing it just for the check...)?

And I don't believe having professional credibility is necessarily relevant to the question of whether it's ultimately fanfiction or not, whether or not it's licensed.

Though I also agree with somebuddy that we've strayed from the original topic.
 
I agree (about straying from the original topic).

I don't really see how the Federation could be convinced to join the Dominion peacefully though, given their fundamentally different values.

Then again, The Search was brought up by @Citiprime, and apparently that simulation was realistic enough that Sisko & Co believed it. (Even though that wasn't really about the Federation joining the Dominion). I guess all those Badmirals have corrupted Starfleet way more than I thought.
 
It might have been interesting if within the simulation Our Heroes had had a beat to discuss how unbelievable they found it that the Federation would do what they were doing.
 
No, they weren't. Dear god, get a grip.
yes, they were and I don't accept it.

No one cares.
There are many who cares.
Just because you like character destruction it's not like other people here like it.
You are not the center of the Universe or the TrekBBS. :D

It's so, so, so very childish.
Definitely not, not, not.
It's a proof of being constructive and have ideas.
To be honest, I'm not the one who is childish here.
And to be honest again, I'd rather be a constructive child with imagination than a sheep who just say "yes" and accept character destruction and other crap which are forced upon us by certain producers, writers and authors.
 
Take away the license and it's fanfiction,
That's literally the definition of what makes something professional versus not.

"Take away the million-dollar contract and actually playing for an MLB team and there's no difference between a New York Yankee and a little leaguer!"

This is the most inane argument yet.
 
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