Spoilers What If...? discussion thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Evil Headhunter, Aug 4, 2021.

  1. Evil Headhunter

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  2. kitik

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    Wow, a whole series based around Star-Lord T'Challa. That would've been awesome.

    Double sad: I just realized, that would have meant a whole season of Yondu too!!!!! (And good-guy Thanos.)
     
  3. kitik

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    We heard that the episode that got pushed to season 2 was a straight-up comedy, so that type of line would seem to fit.

    That Lego set of Tony Stark's Sakaarian Iron Man must surely be a huge shelfwarmer, and I'm sure Lego would look at the sales numbers and decide that there's no way they could justify keeping the set in production for another year, until the episode actually airs.
     
  4. Samurai8472

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    Is it just me or did it sound like Benedict Cumberbatch had a serious cold when he recorded his lines?
     
  5. theenglish

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    That was a different script or maybe even a story idea that never made it to the production stage.
     
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    Entertaining episode but I wasn't blown away by it or anything. The voice acting seems a bit off. It really felt like none of the actors were in the same room when they read their lines. I know this was the reality of the recording but the way they responded to each other lacked the correct tone to the other actor's line. A lot of the series felt that way but when you put all these characters together in the same room it was even more noticeable.
     
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    Solid finish, like most Marvel films the big climatic battle at the end is too cluttered and chaotic to have a real emotional impact, but there were enough twists and turns to keep you engaged. The final solution (the pocket dimension) was creative and a way to not have to explain HOW two insanely intelligent and powerful villains were destroyed.
    Looking forward to next season.
     
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    Ultron demonstrated quite the lack of imagination in utilizing the infinity stones, though I suppose that's par for the course for a creature that thinks the best solution to life's problems is to just end all life.
     
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    As much as I enjoyed Shang Chi the ten rings of the comics (matter, impact, vortex, spectral, darkness, magnetic, flame, mental, electro, ice) were really dumbed down as well. I think perhaps the infinity stones might've been better left behind after Endgame as they're hard to use to their fullest potential. Maybe if they focused on one or two and not the whole gauntletworth.
     
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    I wish they had just made Strange British in the MCU. There's nothing about him that requires him to be American, and having to put on the accent is just a waste of Cumberbatch's natural voice.
     
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  12. Christopher

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    It worked for Charles Xavier...
     
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  13. No Grave Found

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    It was okay.

    I am surprised the Uatu DIDN'T pick any version of Captain Marvel though.

    One nerdish point: Ultron does mention that each Universe is different - and that ended up being why the Infinity Stones from his Universe were not destroyed. That said, like I brought up in a comment I made about an earlier episode, it SHOULD then be the case that Infinity Stones from a different Universe shouldn't work when they switch to a Universe different from the one they formed in. ;)
     
  14. Grendelsbayne

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    I don't see why. Slightly different in no way means incapable of working.
     
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  15. Christopher

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    Why? Where do you get "SHOULD" from? Just because they're slightly different doesn't mean they wouldn't work; that doesn't follow logically at all.

    After all, different "universes" are just divergent timelines from the same original universe, as we saw at the end of Loki season 1. It's really a misnomer to call them universes; they're actually superposed states of the Schroedinger wave equation of a single universe. They're functionally separate universes because they're (normally) non-interacting, but they share a common origin. So it's wrong to say the Stones "formed" in different universes. That's not how it works. Unrelated universes with separate origins would not have the same stars and planets and species and people and historical events. The only way you get that is with divergent timelines that share a common history up until a specific event diverges. So the Infinity Stones would've (I presume) formed billions of years ago when all timelines were one, then split into alternate versions of themselves along with the universe, branching out into multiple timelines along with everything else.

    So the difference in the Infinity Stones is presumably just a subtle variation. The Stones are linked to the cosmic forces of the universe, so slight divergences in the wave equation of different timelines due to their differing events would presumably leave some kind of imprint. It would basically be just a slight change in "tuning" so that the "frequency" of Gamora's Infinity Crusher wasn't set right for Ultron's stones. There's absolutely no reason why they wouldn't work at all. The laws of physics of any two timelines are still going to be exactly the same; only events are different. If people can still live and breathe and have metabolic and cognitive functions in a different timeline, then everything else, including Infinity Stones, should also work exactly the same in a different timeline.
     
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    If it's such a slight difference in they shouldn't be indestructible buy another machine made in another Universe to destroy them either.
     
  17. Grendelsbayne

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    That doesn't follow, either. There is no incontrovertible principle to be found here. They can be immune to a particular weapon designed for a different set of stones and still work in generally the same way. There's nothing illogical about that possibility.
     
  18. Christopher

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    Define "shouldn't" in a work of fantasy fiction. "Shouldn't" is meaningless here. Infinity Stones don't really exist. There's no universal standard for how they would operate. They work in whatever way is convenient for the narrative.

    Besides, sometimes a slight imperfection is all it takes to prevent a device from working. Like when I accidentally bent a pin inside the charging port of my old smartphone. That tiny misalignment rendered the phone useless because I couldn't get the cable plugged in anymore.
     
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  19. I was Mephisto All Along!

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    In theory shouldn't their be multiple Ultrons who are also going through this experience and eventually you would have Ultrons fighting other Ultrons for ultimate power? Also I wonder about bringing in a good Vision or even a Thanos that won to fight him. Thanos goal was to save the universe with the snap so even though he is a baddie he might look at Ultron as a bad guy who would end the great work he did with the Snap.
     
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  20. Samurai8472

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    As I said earlier