What DON’T you like about the show?

[MakeshiftPython]

I care about the characters. I didn't need the episodes to be an extra 20 minutes for that to happen (though that would have been nice).

As for the fast dialogue, I think that's just part of the show's aesthetic like many other animated programs these days. I don't have any trouble keeping up.

 

[BillJ]

Even taking out that complaint I've heard, which I don't necessarily agree with, the episode lengths could be longer. It's on a streaming service, which is not under the same time constraints that a network or even cable show has. Take full advantage of that!

Doesn't have to be 80 minutes per episode, but like I said about PICARD and DISCOVERY, it doesn't need to be 42 minutes or less, either. As long as it gets the story told, with a little bit extra for character beats, a sweet spot for LOWER DECKS could be 35 minutes. (Just like how the live action shows could be 55 minutes... enough time for the story, while adding some important character beats and scenes.)

Because they want to sell these shows into syndication, at some point. So they are going to run in length to what OTA stuff does.

 

[fireproof78]

I care about the characters. I didn't need the episodes to be an extra 20 minutes for that to happen (though that would have been nice).

As for the fast dialogue, I think that's just part of the show's aesthetic like many other animated programs these days. I don't have any trouble keeping up.

I really struggle with the assumption that length of time with characters is necessary to care. If that were the case then guest characters should have zero impact.

 

[jackoverfull]

Even taking out that complaint I've heard, which I don't necessarily agree with, the episode lengths could be longer. It's on a streaming service, which is not under the same time constraints that a network or even cable show has. Take full advantage of that!

Doesn't have to be 80 minutes per episode, but like I said about PICARD and DISCOVERY, it doesn't need to be 42 minutes or less, either. As long as it gets the story told, with a little bit extra for character beats, a sweet spot for LOWER DECKS could be 35 minutes. (Just like how the live action shows could be 55 minutes... enough time for the story, while adding some important character beats and scenes.)

Some of the best scenes of the Berman era STAR TREK shows involved those little character scenes that had nothing to do with the episode itself. That's why we CARE ABOUT THESE CHARACTERS.

(Sorry if my italicizing seems like I'm yelling. Not the intention... I just get really passionate about some things. But then, that's why we all talk about these shows. )

it’s on a streaming network *now*, but they clearly intend to sell it to more traditional venues in the future.

And don’t get me wrong, I’d love longer episodes, but I get why they’re not likely (actually I’m surprised they’re already this long: just compare them with rebels or resistance).

 

[MakeshiftPython]

I don't think those Star Wars shows are comparable.

 

[jackoverfull]

Because they’re aimed at a younger audience?

I quoted those because they’re literally the only animated shows I’ve watched in the last twenty years or more (regretting it with resistance!)) untile LDS cam around.

 

[NCC-73515]

Well, it is annoyingly fast for me (and my girlfriend), but not so much as not being followable. On the other hand, it’s one of the few complaints I have and since I guess it helps cramming so much stuff in the limited length these episodes have I’m totally fine with it.

Subtitles can help

 

[F. King Daniel]

The intro music. It's fine and very Star Trek, but Lower Decks needs something like the iconic Stargate Infinity theme:

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(...finity...finity...finity.. )

 

[jackoverfull]

Subtitles can help

they do, but I hate watching stuff with subtitles. If I wanted to read I have plenty of books here.

 

[NCC-73515]

I turn them on whenever I don't understand something or think I missed a word (when they talk too fast, or all the same time, or I wanna know how a new word is pronounced). You can always turn them off again in calmer scenes XD

 

[jackoverfull]

That is exactly what I do usually. Since I'm watching this with my girlfriend and her english isn't as good as mine we just keep them on for Lower Decks, though.

 

[Muji]

I don't like how many references there are. I like a show to stand on its own two feet rather than rely on fan-service. There is a section of the community that buy into that stuff big time. Some see it as 'real Trek' because of these things. The strange thing, to me at least, is the 'real' Trek they love doesn't do that. It tells its own story. When LDS tells its own story - and it does - then it becomes really decent. I like it a lot when it does this. For me, it has now found its own voice and needs to continue to tell its own story in season 2 rather than act like a meme generator for Star Trek references.

 

[Rhodan]

Really supporting all those who would like the humor to be a little less self-aware.

 

[Jadeb]

I get the desire for more, but I like the episode length. Better to leave too soon than overstay your welcome, especially with these characters. And many of the gags are better served by a rapid pace than lingering scrutiny.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Because they’re aimed at a younger audience?

I quoted those because they’re literally the only animated shows I’ve watched in the last twenty years or more (regretting it with resistance!)) untile LDS cam around.

That's one factor, but from my understanding the Star Wars shows take themselves relatively more seriously, whereas LOWER DECKS puts a lot more emphasis on self-referential/self-deprecating humor. In a way, TAS would be the equivalent of CLONE WARS, serving as an expansion of the characters established in live action while geared towards a younger audience.

If anything, STAR TREK: PRODIGY will probably be more in line with TAS and those Star Wars animated shows.

 

[Sci]

Adult animated situation comedies are a very different genre from animated children's adventure shows and I really don't think it makes sense to compare them. You might as well compare, say, Community to The Adventures of Superman for all that they have in common.

 

[ScottJ85]

That the swearing is bleeped.

 

[Danja]

Too much fan service.

I knew where the plots were going several eps in ("Here's the transporter malfunction ep ... Here's the ep where the crew is on trial ...")

 

[Dryson]

I don't like the fact that Lower Decks hasn't introduced a 3rd contact party who is brought out from the Jeffries Tubes and Coal Furnace Room of the Cerritos yet.

 

[ScottJ85]

I don't like the fact that Lower Decks hasn't introduced a 3rd contact party who is brought out from the Jeffries Tubes and Coal Furnace Room of the Cerritos yet.

The "we're reconsidering your membership in the Federation but we can't just throw you out so maybe if we have these losers make contact you'll quit on your own" party.