What do you want to see in Star Trek 4?

[Noname Given]

"Same team?" Aside from Frakes directing, Insurrection had a different team than First Contact. FC's script was written by Ron Moore and Brannon Braga, Insurrection's by Michael Piller.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Patrick Stewart got involved to 'lighten up' Insurrection's script as he felt earlier drafts were 'too dark'.
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Between that script and the Nemesis script, I sure hope to hell Paramount learned that they shouldn't let actors who haven't written big budget scripts before (Simon Pegg had prior to STB) like Stewart or Spiner TOUCH a script.

 

[The Wormhole]

Between that script and the Nemesis script, I sure hope to hell Paramount learned that they shouldn't let actors who haven't written big budget scripts before (Simon Pegg had prior to STB) like Stewart or Spiner TOUCH a script.

"Big budget scripts?" While I am of course aware Simon Pegg is an experienced screen writer, I wasn't aware any of his movies were particularly big budgeted.

Also, Brent Spiner had nothing to do with the script for Nemesis, he only has a story credit for the movie. IIRC, his only contribution to the plot was the addition of B-4.

 

[Noname Given]

"Big budget scripts?" While I am of course aware Simon Pegg is an experienced screen writer, I wasn't aware any of his movies were particularly big budgeted.

Also, Brent Spiner had nothing to do with the script for Nemesis, he only has a story credit for the movie. IIRC, his only contribution to the plot was the addition of B-4.

No, he and John Logan were collaborating on a lot more with regard to Nemesis. The entire Picard/Data Scorpion Shuttle escape sequence from the Scimitar was in fact Brent Spiner's idea and he hashed it out with John Logan over the phone. <--- That's a story both Spiner and John Logan have stated over the years, and it's not Brent's only contribution to that script.

 

[The Wormhole]

And I remember an interview where Brent Spiner was surprised to receive a story credit, claiming he only contributed the idea for B-4.

Regardless, John Logan is the movie's only credited scriptwriter.

 

[Nyotarules]

No time travel
Bring back Jayleh and Carol Marcus
A First Contact that goes horribly wrong
Give McCoy a girlfriend say Charlene Masters

 

[Scout101]

How about no villain? Would love to see more Enterprise vs. a problem instead of moustache twirling villain. TOS had the galaxy littered with ancient dead civilizations and wiz-bang gadgets, let's get the crew involved with one of them...

 

[Galileo7]

How about no villain? Would love to see more Enterprise vs. a problem instead of moustache twirling villain. TOS had the galaxy littered with ancient dead civilizations and wiz-bang gadgets, let's get the crew involved with one of them...

Agree, TMP was the closest film that came to that, exploring V'ger, no villain. TOS had many episodes like that too.

 

[The Wormhole]

Agree, TMP was the closest film that came to that, exploring V'ger, no villain. TOS had many episodes like that too.

The only episode of TOS that's even remotely similar to TMP is The Changeling.

 

[Galileo7]

The only episode of TOS that's even remotely similar to TMP is The Changeling.

I know that. I was referring to the quote I posted:

...TOS had the galaxy littered with ancient dead civilizations and wiz-bang gadgets, let's get the crew involved with one of them...

 

[F. King Daniel]

More Kevin.

Scotty getting jealous of Keener's budding friendship with Kevin.

Scotty getting caught trying to sabotage the Keenser-Kevin friendship.

I would happily watch a Scotty/Keenser/Kevin rom-com

 

[RandyS]

I want the crew to go back in time to the 20th century and save the Goldfish.

 

[BillJ]

I want the crew to go back in time to the 20th century and save the Goldfish.

They have to go back in time to eat all the goldfish and save Earth.

 

[Scout101]

The only episode of TOS that's even remotely similar to TMP is The Changeling.

To be clear, I wasn't asking for another TMP. Just saying I'd rather have the crew out playing the universe vice fighting another forehead alien with a grudge against Earth... for some reason...

There were tons of these sorts of things in TOS, pick one. So many ancient civilizations that Kirk and co. ran into, had to struggle through/outsmart. I liked the slower, more thoughtful pace vice the action flick thing, but could still even work that in. Just don't want it to be another Villain of the Week movie. Give the crew a problem to work through/struggle against instead. Most of my favorite TOS books don't have a bad guy, half don't even have an antagonist at all. Explore, find something, something goes wrong, figure it out, success. Adventure, mystery, tricking a computer into killing itself, all available...

 

[One Lucky Red Shirt]

Just make the next film a horror film. With the crew on an alien planet being attacked by killer rabbits. With no holy grenades either

 

[Kemaiku]

Just make the next film a horror film. With the crew on an alien planet being attacked by killer rabbits. With no holy grenades either

 

[Dryson]

Something that would set the stage for V'ger or the Whale Probe.

 

[locutus101]

Something that would set the stage for V'ger or the Whale Probe.

How can you set the stage for something like that?

 

[urbandefault]

Why keep going back to what we've seen before? How about a new story with new situations, new problems to solve, new characters?

FWIW, I wouldn't expect to see any guest or peripheral characters from the previous movies show up in the next one. No Carol, Jaylah, Kevin (unless he's a Minion :P), and obviously, no Cupcake. They killed him in two movies, but it wasn't important enough to show in the final cut. He's done.

Space is big. Let's see more of the final frontier (lower case).

 

[Relayer1]

Cupcake should have become Treks 'Kenny' and died in every movie.

I'd like some more beats. And shouting !

Actually, they should try this :

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[Shalashaska]

Not sure if I've mentioned it already, but either way, I can't stress it enough.

No mustache-twirling villain.
No silly revenge plot.
No doomsday device.

I feel these tropes are so played out. While I enjoyed Beyond overall, Krall and the story were the biggest flaws with it.

I just want them to focus on writing a good story for the next one. Forget the action set-pieces, forget the computer graphics and the extravagant visuals, just look at it as a book or a play. Come up with a good story, translate it into a Star Trek script, and then focus on the eye-candy.

That's all I ask.