^ I like that line of thinking, Merlanthe.
Makes a lot of sense of what we see in the episode. 
What did Khan see in McGivers?
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^ I like that line of thinking, Merlanthe.
Makes a lot of sense of what we see in the episode. As it turns out, although this happened off-screen, Marla showed Khan that she could suck a space seed through a garden hose.
I am beginning to wonder. Had the actress who played McGivers not been confined to a wheelchair, by this time, and was around to play her in STAR TREK II, how she might've approached - or been asked to approach - the character. She probably wouldn't have been given much to do, but encourage her husband and taunt the ENTERPRISE for subjecting her and hers to 15 solid years of pure hell. But how could a "normal" woman ever be Khan's equal? Surely, if you have an ego such as Khan has, then she'd be an Alpha Babe, ALL the way. Then again, Hitler's Eva was kinda cute but not too bright. But Hitler was no kind of superhuman, at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. Maybe the other women in Khan's clique were too perfect to be interesting? Now, there's a thought ...
Khan may have fallen in love with her, but I wonder how she got along with all the others. Think about what it would be like as the only Kluge in a group of Augments.
I always figured Khan put (or rotated) a bunch of people back into cryosleep. It'd be a good way to keep them alive and conserve food and resources. Khan himself, of course, would remain awake the whole time to take care of them. The result is that they'd end up significantly younger. (I chalked up the ethnic thing as a harsh environment altering their hair and skin tone. Or just plain artistic license.)
Unfortunately this was based on the assumption that they landed with the full Botany Bay and its cryo gear. I didn't realize for the longest time that wasn't the case.
However....
If they took some of these into exile, my idea would work.
Never knew she had MS. That's sad.
A woman runs this place. I suggest you never again say something like this or I will bounce your ass off the BBS so fast that you won't know what hit you.
I think her illness would have played well to the plot - that she was crippled by their situation would have fueled Khan's rage almost as much as her death. Madlyn WAS acting at the time, being regular on Houston Knights in 1987, and on Murder She Wrote until 1996
Those years are somewhat later than TWOK's release in 1982. But she did appear in a Fantasy Island episode in '82, so maybe she and Montalban had a chance to talk about it.
T'Devilish;10231714.[/QUOTE said:
That was... extreme.
Shields Up!
Wow!
I can only suppose that since Harve and everyone putting STAR TREK II together kept looking for ways to keep the production leaner and more direct in its approach, that they never wanted McGivers in it, anyway. Having Khan in it was enough. But realising now that she could've very well been a part of the show, I feel her absense was a loss to the movie. Khan, by himself, being solely revenge-driven, is kind of "thin," as a character. Outside of having eels, super strength and an unwashed crew, most of what was interesting about him resides actually in his backstory. Only Ricardo's strong performance makes the character seem larger than life, in The Wrath of Khan. I think this would've been compensated for, quite a bit, by having his wife there to give him some more dimension ...
The point being that if she was working up until 1996, and well enough to be a TV series regular, she was also well enough and still working at the time TWoK was being made. I don't know why you seem to think my mentioning later dates negated my point, when it in fact made my point.
I'd have rather dumped one of the other 20-something augments and replace them with McGivers. One of those ladies who were donning the Starfleet jackets and looked more like escapees from Miri's planet rather than super clever augments.
To put this rather delicately was the actress still good looking in 1982?
Looking at a couple pictures of her from Days of Our Lives ( 1982-85) she was still attractive.
I often wish for this as well. We don't need a full blown karma system, a la REddit, but it would be nice if we could publicly acknowledge posts that we find insightful/interesting/generally high quality.
She also appeared in several episodes of Fame, as Doris' mother.
But the demands of a movie and a TV show are different, and it's possible that she/her doctor felt that a movie would be too taxing for her. I read something about this many years ago, so am possibly misremembering it.
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