What canon would you like to have seen broken in Trek?

[kythe]

I also don't acknowledge TFF, but if one does take it into account, I thing yakueb made a very good analysis of it.

However, I disagree about Sarek being more on the "outside" of his people. If he was placed in a position of being an ambassador to earth, he represented his people to the humans. He was trusted enough by his own people that they were willing to put him on another planet in a position where aliens looked at him and said, "That's a Vulcan". Many people may never meet another Vulcan besides the ambassador, so his people trusted him with their reputation as a planet.

 

[kitsune]

^Well, due to the asymptote of the warp curve, Warp 9.9999 is like a hundred times faster than Warp 9.999, and Warp 9.99999 is like a thousand times faster than Warp 9.9999 (I'm mathematically disinclined, so I don't know the exact numbers and find it difficult to parse the equation).

The upper end of the TNG warp scale is implausibly cumbersome. If they had simply extended the logarithmic scale past warp 8, it would be very convenient and easy to differentiate various speeds.

the Salamander Barrier.

 

[Myasishchev]

^Indeed. I appreciate why they did it, but it was an idea flawed in conception.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

Any future show/movie set in the post-dominion war timeline works under the premise that Nemesis and Insurrection never happened.

 

[Anwar]

Why? INS didn't mess with anything, and NEM at least got Riker his own ship and explained how the Romulans also ended up undergoing a governmental "change" after DS9.

 

[Rulius]

Well at the risk of being flayed alive... T'Pol and Trip..just never seemed plausible to me..

 

[Crewman47]

^^I thought it was agreed we would all just forget TFF ever existed?! It. Never. Happened. "We were all on vacation!" "Nothing bad ever happened!" (German tour guide on Family Guy regarding World War II.

I just had a thought about TFF. Instead of dismissing it altogether what if the whole adventure from after the Yosemite camp fire scene was just a dream that either Spock, Kirk or Bones, or all three were having as a result of some organism that entered there subconscious as there were sleeping. The only thing that would require a little change would be the end scene back in Yosemite where the three of them wake up and wonder what the hell they were dreaming about and Spock contemplating his "Life is not a dream" line.

 

[C.E. Evans]

^Well, due to the asymptote of the warp curve, Warp 9.9999 is like a hundred times faster than Warp 9.999, and Warp 9.99999 is like a thousand times faster than Warp 9.9999 (I'm mathematically disinclined, so I don't know the exact numbers and find it difficult to parse the equation).

The upper end of the TNG warp scale is implausibly cumbersome. If they had simply extended the logarithmic scale past warp 8, it would be very convenient and easy to differentiate various speeds.

In an ideal situation, ships would generally have maxed out around Warp 9 and vary few would have rarely gone anywhere remotely near Warp 9.9. But the problem was that writers always want a ship to go faster and faster for dramatic purposes, so we wound up with even cumbersome warp factors than what was originally intended, IMO.

Even if the warp scale hadn't been recalibrated, we probably would have ended up with Warp factor 147 or Warp factor 3650 or something like that eventually...

 

[PhoenixIreland]

Why? INS didn't mess with anything, and NEM at least got Riker his own ship and explained how the Romulans also ended up undergoing a governmental "change" after DS9.

Starfleet, who are usually so high minded and idealistic they are drowning in their own arrogance... committing ethnic cleansing? I'd like to see that go away, as well as a fountain of youth planet with aliens who are identical to humans.

Riker getting his own ship and the Romulan story in general but it was the notion of a human clone running the Romulan empire that was just fucking ridiculous...and he happens to be the exact clone of one federation starship captain...come on.

 

[Anwar]

Aliens identical to humans were all over the place in TOS, so it's forgivable. And the "fountain of youth" stuff is also no stranger to Trek. You can just retcon it that it was all a Section 31 operation or something.

And the cover story was that Shinzon was a Reman, and that was mainly due to the Military backing him up. He lost that and as such would've been out of his position if he hadn't died.

 

[bryce]

The rule that all Federation ships must have the bridge on a very vulnerable, easily targeted, dome on the top of the ship...is kinda dumb, and needs to go.

Especially if your ship's bridges use holographic view "screens" instead of windows.

'bout the only time it *does* make sense is in the new movie - where you actually *have* a window/HUD-style viewer...and maybe that's cause they like windows you cab look out of in case a viewer *fails* (which, I was thinking recently as I re-watched Wrath of Kahn...that window would have REALLY come in handy in the Mutara Nebula!)

 

[Crewman47]

There must be like just over a dozen windows dotted on the outside of the saucer section alone. All it would take is for Kirk to have at least two crewman at each window looking out and reporting to the bridge anything the see.

Sometimes it seems that windows on Starships are under utilised as lookout posts and visual viewers are too much relied on.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The rule that all Federation ships must have the bridge on a very vulnerable, easily targeted, dome on the top of the ship...is kinda dumb, and needs to go.

That's not a problem for me. People keep saying that the bridge shouldn't be up there because it's vulnerable, and that it'd be safer to have it deep inside the ship. But that's what SHIELDS are for. Any attack powerful enough to punch through a ship's shields would be able to reach and destroy the bridge - no matter how far inside the ship it was.

 

[Anwar]

That's exactly it, when TOS was made the idea was that the only thing protecting the ship were the shields and that the phaser/disruptor/plasma weapons being used in starship combat rendered hull plating useless. So it didn't matter where the bridge was because if the shields went they were dead regardless.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Plus, if the bridge wasn't up top, we couldn't have had that cool opening shot from "The Cage".

 

[kitsune]

Plus, if the bridge wasn't up top, we couldn't have had that cool opening shot from "The Cage".

Or some scenes in Encounter at Farpoint or Generations (looking out in both cases).

 

[Cyke101]

The rule that all Federation ships must have the bridge on a very vulnerable, easily targeted, dome on the top of the ship...is kinda dumb, and needs to go.

That's not a problem for me. People keep saying that the bridge shouldn't be up there because it's vulnerable, and that it'd be safer to have it deep inside the ship. But that's what SHIELDS are for. Any attack powerful enough to punch through a ship's shields would be able to reach and destroy the bridge - no matter how far inside the ship it was.

The way damage is depicted in modern Trek could be a retcon from the 60s now, but it seems that shields don't provide complete protection, as there's been some damage splash leaking through, esp. when shields are down to X% but there's a hull breach on decks X through XX.

 

[kitsune]

The way damage is depicted in modern Trek could be a retcon from the 60s now, but it seems that shields don't provide complete protection, as there's been some damage splash leaking through, esp. when shields are down to X% but there's a hull breach on decks X through XX.

According to Star Trek, in a space battle, you're more likely to be killed by an exploding computer console or a shoddily-welded girder than by phaser fire penetrating the bridge.

 

[Broccoli]

Don't let a crew member just vanish into thin air without any on-screen acknowledgement. See: Cutler.

In fairness, she didn't return to ENT for it's second season, because she was trying her luck with a pilot that wasn't picked up. Shortly thereafter, she died. This one really isn't TPTB's fault.

 

[Cyke101]

The way damage is depicted in modern Trek could be a retcon from the 60s now, but it seems that shields don't provide complete protection, as there's been some damage splash leaking through, esp. when shields are down to X% but there's a hull breach on decks X through XX.

According to Star Trek, in a space battle, you're more likely to be killed by an exploding computer console or a shoddily-welded girder than by phaser fire penetrating the bridge.

Okay, true, but one day I'd love to see a computer console so huge that when it blows up, the entire bridge gets shredded.