What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[knightgrace]

That's dirty.

No! Harry.

 

[Shawnster]

But Starfleet isn't the military of course. Not like he is criticizing a fellow Solider or anything.

Nice way to deflect from the point being made. One man wearing a clown suit criticizing another man for wearing a clown suit.

What's next? Being critical of the color order on a flag?

As for Picard and controversial opinions, let's face it, he's a pompous ass (Captain Louvois called it) and oftentimes says things about humanity and the Federation that are just not true in order to stay on his high horse.

Nice way of bringing us back to the point.

 

[Jayson Poorknees]

Nice way to deflect from the point being made. One man wearing a clown suit criticizing another man for wearing a clown suit.

What's next? Being critical of the color order on a flag?



Nice way of bringing us back to the point.

Deflection? I was just making a joke.

 

[The Gatekeeper]

Well. I see we have a long way to go.

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[Danja]

The mere fact that P+ is cheap and likes to reuse ships from Disco does not in and of itself make Picard a Disco spinoff.

 

[Set Harth]

Gene Roddenberry described it as "quasi-military," which I guess works. It is clearly the Federation's military, but it is also more than that.

"peacekeeping and humanitarian armada"

 

[137th Gebirg]

I've always found the choice of the word "armada" very curious in that line from JJPike. It has a more militaristic-sounding tone than other words that might have been used there.

 

[Tallguy]

I've always found the choice of the word "armada" very curious in that line from JJPike. It has a more militaristic-sounding tone than other words that might have been used there.

It sounds like a writer's strike. Or maybe that Abrams doesn't understand words that he thinks sound cool. ("RESISTANCE!")

BTW about "...peacekeeping and humanitarian armada": Pike isn't talking about Starfleet. He's talking about the Federation.

 

[fireproof78]

It sounds like a writer's strike. Or maybe that Abrams doesn't understand words that he thinks sound cool. ("RESISTANCE!")

BTW about "...peacekeeping and humanitarian armada": Pike isn't talking about Starfleet. He's talking about the Federation.

Damn writers strike.

I love how Abrams' gets insulted for his intelligence when he wasn't the writer on 09 and couldn't do any adjustments due to the strike.

 

[137th Gebirg]

It sounds like a writer's strike. Or maybe that Abrams doesn't understand words that he thinks sound cool. ("RESISTANCE!")

BTW about "...peacekeeping and humanitarian armada": Pike isn't talking about Starfleet. He's talking about the Federation.

Which makes it even more weird, as "armada" is usually a synonymous word for "fleet" - the physical embodiment of military strength, subservient to a larger civilian organization. The Federation is a Democratic/Republic conglomeration of member worlds joined together under one banner for a common goal with Starfleet being used as an enforcement instrument of its policies.

 

[The Gatekeeper]

I love how Abrams' gets insulted for his intelligence when he wasn't the writer on 09 and couldn't do any adjustments due to the strike.

Abrams is still a raging hedonist. The strike doesn't change that.

 

[fireproof78]

Abrams is still a raging hedonist. The strike doesn't change that.

He's just trying to live up to Roddenberry's vision of evolved humanity

 

[GhoulEddie74]

Whic

"peacekeeping and humanitarian armada"

And I love Trek 2009, but that is an awful and clumsy line of dialogue.

 

[Jayson Poorknees]

The Kelvinverse Starfleet must work differently than Prime universe Starfleet.

 

[fireproof78]

A global force for good.

 

[Shawnster]

"peacekeeping and humanitarian armada"

Peace through superior firepower

I've always found the choice of the word "armada" very curious in that line from JJPike. It has a more militaristic-sounding tone than other words that might have been used there.

Armada
Arm
Arms

Etymology: mid 16th century: from Spanish, from armata, feminine past participle of Latin armare ‘to arm’.

 

[Tallguy]

Damn writers strike.

I love how Abrams' gets insulted for his intelligence when he wasn't the writer on 09 and couldn't do any adjustments due to the strike.

It's not like he was uninvolved with the creation process. He didn't read the script for the first time during the strike. It's also not exactly unreflective of his tastes.

The Kelvinverse Starfleet must work differently than Prime universe Starfleet.

Maybe. But the Federation sure does.

 

[fireproof78]

It's not like he was uninvolved with the creation process. He didn't read the script for the first time during the strike. It's also not exactly unreflective of his tastes.

So that means he lacks word comprehension or unintelligent?

 

[Tallguy]

So that means he lacks word comprehension or unintelligent?

It means he made the Star Trek and Star Wars movies that he wanted to make.

 

[FredH]

Of course Starfleet is a military force that also does traditionally non-military stuff. In the initial picture we got in TNG Season One and ancillary materials for it, the idea was that there’d been no significant conflict in about fifty years, so they’d gotten quite used to being a “peacetime fleet”, which was why they found the events behind “The Battle” and “Heart of Glory” so shocking. I honestly wish they’d kept that and stuck with it, but instead it wasn’t long till they started retconning in recent wars, and that whole sense went away.