What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

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  1. Grendelsbayne

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    Or redesign the holographic project to protect it against radiation.
     
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  2. KamenRiderBlade

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    There are just some environments that need solid bodies, I'm going to leave it at that.
     
  3. Kor

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    Perhaps somebody could manufacture a clone army or something. :shifty:

    Kor
     
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  4. cooleddie74

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    "Now don't touch the subroutines of that holoprogram."

     
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  5. fireproof78

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    If you can harden a droid I would well imagine you can harden a projector. Any deployed team should be appropriate to the environment. So, holograms, to drones to probes, each have use.
     
  6. KamenRiderBlade

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    That's why I like to Mix/Match my teams.

    Organic Bi-PaB crew members.

    Bi-PaB Droids.

    Holograms.

    Non-BiPaB Droids.

    etc.
     
  7. fireproof78

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    Yup. Diversity makes more missions possible.
     
  8. KamenRiderBlade

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    I've always been a fan of Non Bi-PaB droids ever since I saw Star Wars as a kid.

    So while it's nice and practical to have Bi-PaB droids that actors can act in, having non standard Bi-PaB droids is important to me.

    Who doesn't like BB-8 & BD-1?

    One of the droids I want created is a "Centaur Droid" with a robotic Snake Tail that coils up like a telephone cord for compact space savings, but can extend to be super long like the longest snakes on Earth.

    Having the body of a Centaur allows the functionality of a Bi-PaB, with extra stability & mobility of a horse & the versatility of a Snake Tail =D
     
  9. fireproof78

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    I mean, I'm sure it makes sense to you.

    BB-8 is the best though. He is shaped like a ball.
     
  10. KamenRiderBlade

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    It sure does

    I prefer BD-1 over BB-8 myself.
     
  11. 1001001

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    1BDI is better than both of them....

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  13. Oddish

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    It's not just tech, it's tactics. I just watched the final battle of "The Siege of AR-558". There were no grenades used, no directional mines, no incendiaries... all of those things were basic 20th century technology. A few sets of Vietnam era M18A1 antipersonnel mines would have slaughtered dozens of the attacking Jem'Hadar with minimal risk to the Starfleet side.

    The battle in "Fortunate Son" was similar. There was a group of Naussican pirates, standing together and shooting from a place of relative cover. A WWI era black powder grenade, tossed into their midst, would have obliterated all of them. But, all anyone did was shoot ray guns at them. That's why they won the engagement, and undoubtedly continued to pillage Earth's freighters for years to come.
     
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  14. Farscape One

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    Can't really throw a grenade in an enclosed space like what we see in "FORTUNATE SON". Blast would puncture a hole in their inner hull.

    In "THE SIEGE OF AR-558", they used the Houdinis on the Jem'Hadar. From the distance, we heard a lot of those explosions go off. They thought it would take out 1/3 of them, and probably did. Since those were sort of mines, they were used.
     
  15. Oddish

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    Then they should develop an explosive that can be used. An incendiary, maybe. A cheap Molotov cocktail would have lit the uglies up like a Christmas tree in February.

    All the more reason to have a few Claymores encircling your position, too. Light those suckers off, and you've got Jem'Hadar casserole.
     
  16. Farscape One

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    Considering tricorders and other scanning equipment the Dominion has, plus the Jem'Hadar's shrouding capabilities which severely limit Starfleet's ability to send out people to lay them in the field, and they were on a foreign world to begin with, I'm not sure how claymores or landmines can even be set to be effective enough against large Dominion forces. Small groups, maybe. But they were severely outnumbered. Holding position and forcing the Jem'Hadar in a bottleneck was probably the only thing that kept them alive.
     
  17. Oddish

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    A regular minefield would be problematic, but Claymores are directional (they're the ones with FRONT TOWARD ENEMY) stenciled on them. The backward blast is minimal (you can be within a few yards of one as long as you're behind it), but they'll shred everything within 50 meters in about a 60 degree arc.
     
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  18. Farscape One

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    I know claymores do that. The issue on AR-558 is setting them up. You'd need to set up a lot of them, and enough Starfleet people to actually do it and provide cover.

    That's the part I think makes that ineffective against the Dominion.
     
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  19. Grendelsbayne

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    The issue on AR 558 was also explicitly an extreme lack of supplies. For all we know they simply ran out of heavy explosives.
     
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    Very true, and quite likely, as it was still very difficult just to get the supplies Sisko had at that time, while the Dominion can keep sending stuff on a much more regular basis since it's their home turf.