What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[XCV330]

Or look at the SS Valiant. I mean.. the steel needed to build the thing is probably being fabricated right now by the old timeline. The Phoenix only went a little faster than c, so a little over one light year per year would have been expected for ships like Valiant and Conestoga. And yet somehow Valiant it made it out of the galactic barrier centuries before Enterprise.

 

[cooleddie74]

In my head canon a massive ion or electomagnetic storm or even the sudden appearance of a wormhole swept the Valiant from just outside Sector 001 to the Galactic Barrier, but yep.

 

[Tallguy]

It sounds like you’re saying that since it doesn’t matter, it really really matters?

I'm saying that it obviously matters to people more than they say. If it really doesn't matter, then leave it alone. Or change it back. Or, heck, pick a THIRD stat.

It matters to me. As much as keeping Spock Vulcan? No. As much as a bunch of other things in Star Trek? Still no. But it's enough that it's not nothing.

It mattered to the people who made the change. I can't imagine there would have been a peep from nerds or otherwise if they had just regurgitated the same old numbers from The Making of Star Trek. And they've been playing this game long enough that they knew they would get SOME kind of pushback. And they decided that was OK because, somehow, it mattered.

And it apparently matters to the people who feel that they have to chime in and say that it doesn't matter. Which is weird.

 

[FredH]

I admit that chiming in to disapprove of people chiming in (on a board specifically created for the purpose, yet) seems, well, a little tangled in knots — but it also happens a lot.

EDIT: While I enjoy continuity porn as much as anyone else, I’m increasingly coming to the opinion that “Star Trek stories” should probably eventually switch over to the approach I see in some fanfilms (like the rather good Loreley, over in Fan Productions) — maybe there’s bits of Kelvin and Prime and whatnot in there, but who cares: what matters is a good story, and humanistic evergreen Star Trek values, not the color of the toothpaste. Basically, we eventually move to the model that Robin Hood stories, new Sherlock Holmes stories, Arthurian stories and Superman/Batman stories outside of The Official DC UniverseTM have: where there is no canon, just a field, but one that nevertheless remains recognizable.

It won’t happen for a while, of course. But in the long run, it’d be nice.

 

[XCV330]

I'm saying that it obviously matters to people more than they say. If it really doesn't matter, then leave it alone. Or change it back. Or, heck, pick a THIRD stat.

It matters to me. As much as keeping Spock Vulcan? No. As much as a bunch of other things in Star Trek? Still no. But it's enough that it's not nothing.

It mattered to the people who made the change. I can't imagine there would have been a peep from nerds or otherwise if they had just regurgitated the same old numbers from The Making of Star Trek. And they've been playing this game long enough that they knew they would get SOME kind of pushback. And they decided that was OK because, somehow, it mattered.

And it apparently matters to the people who feel that they have to chime in and say that it doesn't matter. Which is weird.

So people who prefer the new changes but aren't as adamant about it as the gatekeepers should keep the hell away from the gate?

 

[Tallguy]

So people who prefer the new changes but aren't as adamant about it as the gatekeepers should keep the hell away from the gate?

Oh no. Clearly you seem to think it matters.

And as a "gatekeeper" I'm obviously doing a terrible job.

 

[XCV330]

Oh no. Clearly you seem to think it matters.

Oh yes. I was the nerdy kid with the Technical Manual. I would sneak it in church so I could read it instead of the bible story book, but look like I was attentive. I love the details. Doesn't bother me if they change. It keeps it interesting. And not to get into it AGAIN but 288 meters was too short. They fixed it.

And as a "gatekeeper" I'm obviously doing a terrible job.

 

[Tomalak]

Every bit of this.

I mean, look how fast the TOS ship got back to the Kalandan outpost to save Kirk, McCoy and Sulu from the Losira holograms. By THAT point the Losira modifications had been stopped and the ship was no longer traveling fast enough to cover 990.7 light years in the space of mere hours or even minutes. But sure enough Spock comes to the rescue soon after Scotty stops the engine modifications from blowing up the Enterprise.

Or on a smaller level, it's the same as how every turbolift journey takes exactly as long as our characters' conversation, no matter how far they are going.