Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Picard had a better win-ratio in starship combat than the more action-oriented Riker.
Were the Borg Ever in DS9?
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Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Picard had a better win-ratio in starship combat than the more action-oriented Riker.
99.9% Borg free.
Sounds like every other instance of the TPTB in late 90s
And when VOY DID face the Borg, the audience would just complain that VOY survived. It's more or less a no-win scenario the two sides you and I bring into it. I mean, did Farscape ever have Moya battle a Command Carrier on its' own? No, and if they can accept that then they can accept the Borg mentioned in the background as a threat assimilating and destroying.
It didn't just hurt them, it blew them up in one shot.
BUT it took a few seconds for it to work.
Quite true. I mean, they killed off Jadzia at the end of season six! And all those...other main.....characters.........
Like...Well, the other main ones. You know the ones I'm talkin' about.
It would have been nice for the Enterprise to kick some Jem'Hadar ass on the big screen.
Just my $0.02:
The Borg made a brief appearance in Peter David's early-DS9 book, The Seige.
They were checkin' out the wormhole--but the Prophets brought the house down, if ya know what ah mean....
The Borg made a brief appearance in Peter David's early-DS9 book, The Seige.
They were checkin' out the wormhole--but the Prophets brought the house down, if ya know what ah mean....
My feelingd exactly. I thought that the whole Borg Queen thing in FC was ridiculous. She acted like a human, like your typical villain. They even sexualized her and made her into a femme fatale. Collective mind, my ass. There was nothing Borg about her.
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The ninth Star Trek film should have been a Picard vs. the Dominion film, set during the Dominion War. Insurrection leaves the uncomfortable taste that while Sisko and the fleet were off fighting and dying, Picard had a comfortable life far from the front lines.
Would the film have needed an opening crawl? Would pitting Picard against the Jem'Hadar have been confusing?
No. And no.
Do World War II movies try to encompass the entirety of the war? No. They could have done the equivalent of Saving Private Ryan with Picard and his crew. Give the audience enough context to get up to speed, show a single mission of the Enterprise, and end the film on a note that while Picard has won a private victory the enormity of the war goes on.
However. At the time Michael Piller was writing Insurrection, the idea that the Dominion War would be in its second year on Deep Space Nine was far from Rick Berman's mind; he wanted it over and done within six episodes of the sixth season. That's why the film feels like a post-war movie, because it was written to be a post-war movie.
This seems to be a lot of the fans' thoughts- T.N.G last movies should have involved the Dominion.
By delibrately trying to avoid the subject of the Dominion, all it did was make them look awkward.
In the movies, Troi doesn't mention the Dominion occupation at all which seems strange.
Hardly anyone mentioned the Dominion except for a few lines. The idea that it would confuse the viewers or that T.N.G fans would go for it, sounds like overdoing it.
So many opportunities, The Enterprise E going against one of the gigantic Dominion Battleships featured in DS9 that was not defeated (at least onscreen).
Liberating Betazed, or even a simple plot line that simply involves the Dominion in some way.
Even involving the DS9 crew with it, would had answered both concerns, and I would had enjoyed it.
By delibrately trying to avoid the subject of the Dominion, all it did was make them look awkward.
In the movies, Troi doesn't mention the Dominion occupation at all which seems strange.
Hardly anyone mentioned the Dominion except for a few lines. The idea that it would confuse the viewers or that T.N.G fans would go for it, sounds like overdoing it.
So many opportunities, The Enterprise E going against one of the gigantic Dominion Battleships featured in DS9 that was not defeated (at least onscreen).
Liberating Betazed, or even a simple plot line that simply involves the Dominion in some way.
Even involving the DS9 crew with it, would had answered both concerns, and I would had enjoyed it.
The Borg are at DS9 in Legacy on the 360. lol
Well, the difference being that everyone in the audience would know about WWII whereas movie audiences would have no idea who the Dominion was and why they were fighting the Feds. Different genres comparing a real life war to a made-up one.
It would have been to suffice to say that the Dominion was the anti-Federation from the Gamma Quadrant, a distant part of the galaxy, that they were ruthless etc. in an opening crawl, with a bit of in-movie exposition. I don't think it would have been difficult. No more difficult than introducing a whole new race like the Son'a.
