Warner bros announce superhero films through 2020
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It would appear some are always looking for failure in DC's movies...not so much with the TV side.
... Aaaaaand another MCU movie starts smoking all of the DCEU in Metacritic and RT scores. It's almost as if insisting upon solid scripts with engaging characters tends to make better-received movies or something. 
Hiring good actors is easy; it's not wasting their talent that's tricky. See: Shannon, Michael, in Steel, Man of.
Whatever gave you that idea???
Oh, I see. I stand corrected Trek_God_1.
EXCLUSIVE: Justice League undergoing extensive cuts to include more Batmen!
Because it's the League we deserve, but not the League we need right now!
Gee, for a second I thought this might be actual news, not just a mashup of Batman clips.
Not every negative comments has to mean someone is looking for failure.
Uh oh. "The Flash" director leaves after "creative differences". Movie will be pushed back.
http://deadline.com/2016/10/the-flash-director-walks-movie-likely-to-be-pushed-1201845709/
That really sucks
http://deadline.com/2016/10/the-flash-director-walks-movie-likely-to-be-pushed-1201845709/
That really sucks
I have the sneaking suspicion that Geoff Johns and John Berg being elevated at WB is what sparked the differences. Johns' is a huge Flash fan. I imagine he wanted something the director didn't see would fit in his Flash movie.
Marvel was losing directors first. Once again DC is behind the curve.
The opposite's more likely methinks, the director probably wanted to do something that didn't fit the studio's vision.
Ironically, I can already see the people who were shouting for more oversight and a "Kevin Feige type guiding hand" for the DCEU will probably be the first to get outraged about this...
I guess WB still hasn't learned its lesson. Bringing on a director to develop the project, hyping them in the media, then kicking them off when they don't like their ideas - twice. If they find it so hard to work with a director to come up with a script everybody likes, there's obviously something wrong with their process. Geoff Johns was hyped as DC's Feige, but what if he's nothing more than a consultant and script doctor, with the suits still having the last word?
Also, I don't buy the rumour that this development is part of the effort to lighten DC's tone. Most of Famuyiwa's films to date seem to have been mostly light and upbeat in tone already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Famuyiwa
Perhaps it's the double edged sword of having someone like Geoff Johns attached to oversee the film properties. Johns has a lot of pull at DC and his fingers are in many different pies (titles), also his influence can be felt on the Flash TV show as well.
You're right. Just comparing their Wikipedia pages, Johns and Feige seem to have very different roles and workloads.
Feige is described simply as "film producer and president of Marvel Studios."
Johns is Chief Creative Officer of DC Comics (the New 52 launched and died under his watch). Then in 2016 Johns was announced as co-runner of the WB DC movies, plus president of DC Entertainment, while still retaining his CCO position. He worked on the WW script, and is currently writing the Batman script and the Aquaman story. And he wrote DC Universe: Rebirth Special #1 this year. He was a producer on Arrow, but I'm not sure that's ongoing.
Unless Johns is some sort of superhuman, I think he really should pick one thing and stick with it.
Feige is described simply as "film producer and president of Marvel Studios."
Johns is Chief Creative Officer of DC Comics (the New 52 launched and died under his watch). Then in 2016 Johns was announced as co-runner of the WB DC movies, plus president of DC Entertainment, while still retaining his CCO position. He worked on the WW script, and is currently writing the Batman script and the Aquaman story. And he wrote DC Universe: Rebirth Special #1 this year. He was a producer on Arrow, but I'm not sure that's ongoing.
Unless Johns is some sort of superhuman, I think he really should pick one thing and stick with it.
Seems like mostly he's writing. The CCO, producing and President jobs sound like consulting positions rather than active creative positions.
You mean exactly like Marvel has done? Twice? Marvel hired, then "fired" Thor 2 director Patty Jenkins. Then Marvel hired, hyped and then "fired" Ant-Man director Edgar Wright. But I guess it's only wrong when WB/DC does it.
I don't know what the deal with Jenkins was, but Wright had been working on Ant-Man for years, from before Iron Man and before Marvel solidified into the hit factory it is now. The studio changed, but he stayed the same, and no longer fitted with their format. Famuyiwa was only on the project for four months!
I was only talking about Flash. They also lost their first director for WW. I bet James Wan is feeling nervous round about now...
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Losing directors happens all the time. After several years working on the project, Edgar Wright walked away from Marvel 2 months before Ant-Man started shooting. Fox just lost Tim Miller for Deadpool 2. Back in 05, Fox lost Matthew Vaughn, right after losing Bryan Singer and ended up hiring Brett Ratner 3 weeks before shooting started on X3. Marvel lost Jon Favreau and Joss Whedon after the bad experiences they had working with Marvel. Alan Taylor was brought in to replace Patty Jenkins on Thor 2, and even then Taylor said the shoot was rough working under Marvel. Then you have all the people who turn down directing gigs for Marvel.
I'm surprised most of these films turn out as well as they do.
I'm surprised most of these films turn out as well as they do.