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Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread

One thing I just noticed during the Quicksilver scene. Outside Westview alarms were blaring, so something was definitely happening there. Like multiverse bridge opening up. Next week we’ll definitely know more. Can’t wait!
 
Don't know about the fictional Sokovia, but a lot of real Eastern European countries do re-run a lot of old (cheap/illegal license) American shows.
00:50- "Miami Vice is number one new show!" :lol:
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Another implication of X-Men finally coming to MCU... They will bring with them Deadpool and... Cable. It’s also not a given that we will never see Thanos again.... Cable and Thanos facing off would be too Epic!!
 
Well, the horrid Fox X-Men continuity would be easily explained by being a Wanda psychotic break delusion.
I prefer to think that's it's the result of Deadpool's time travelling attempts to "correct" the timeline...and just generally messing with the audience.
 
I went from being somewhat ambivalent to this show to absolutely loving it after these last two episodes.

I really hope that Vision survives (is resurrected); and that the Fox W-Men Pietro actor is also transferred.
(That would eave a way to bring other Fox X cast members into the MCU as their characters - because I've enjoyed both James McAvoy as Professor X and Michael Fassbender as Magneto - assuming one or both would be willing to reprise said roles yet again in an MCU project. I love this setup as it does allow a way to bring cast producers like over; and still recast when needed.)

As for the situation, it's pretty clear Wanda did start this; but maybe the strain of it all is causing issues with her remembering/keeping control of everything in there. For example; the drone wasn't affected because it was using tech/materials concurrent with the created reality and Wanda didn't instantly know something had penetrated the 'Hex' - and that was the same for earlier incursions of people and tech - although things that 'did fit' were changed to fit. (And yes I get this is all a written TV show and made up - but they do seem to have set rules); and it seems that while Wanda created/started it, she's NOT in full control of it as things move forward.
 
Did they mention at all what happened to the beekeeper? I can't recall anyone at Sword bringing up his disappearance this episode. Technically we didn't even see what Wanda did to him.
 
I prefer to think that's it's the result of Deadpool's time travelling attempts to "correct" the timeline...and just generally messing with the audience.

Right, in this timeline Ryan Reynolds was shot in the head before he ever appeared in Green Lantern, I wonder how that changed the future. Maybe that's what created the alternate Agents of SHIELD timeline.
 
I wonder if Monica’s X-rays being blank means that something about the hex gave her powers. The recap took a moment to make her mother’s call sign of “Photon” clear to the audience. Even if Wanda isn’t bringing over the Fox X-Men universe it could activate the powers of mutants if something goes wrong with her control over them.

I am hoping that we get an opposite of “No More Mutants” from her, maybe her wanting for there to be more people like her and her family.
 
I hope they don't keep Evan Peters' Quicksilver....he was just a Flash wannabe, with little to none of comics Quicksilvers' persona. He revolves around one gimmick: Running fast while listening to music.

MCU Quicksilver at least got the characterization right, even if he turned out to be a one movie character.
 
I hope they don't keep Evan Peters' Quicksilver....he was just a Flash wannabe, with little to none of comics Quicksilvers' persona. He revolves around one gimmick: Running fast while listening to music.

MCU Quicksilver at least got the characterization right, even if he turned out to be a one movie character.
There's no reason he has to be written like XMU Quicksilver. Though from the brief snippet of dialog they seem to be doing the "rough around the edges" relative trope with him.
 
I doubt that was Pietro's real personality.

I watched a youtube about how awful the Inhumans is recently, and it touched on a conspiracy that Disney Plus or Marvel, wants it to go away.

I want Lockjaw back.
 
I went from being somewhat ambivalent to this show to absolutely loving it after these last two episodes.

I really hope that Vision survives (is resurrected); and that the Fox W-Men Pietro actor is also transferred.
(That would eave a way to bring other Fox X cast members into the MCU as their characters - because I've enjoyed both James McAvoy as Professor X and Michael Fassbender as Magneto - assuming one or both would be willing to reprise said roles yet again in an MCU project. I love this setup as it does allow a way to bring cast producers like over; and still recast when needed.)

As for the situation, it's pretty clear Wanda did start this; but maybe the strain of it all is causing issues with her remembering/keeping control of everything in there. For example; the drone wasn't affected because it was using tech/materials concurrent with the created reality and Wanda didn't instantly know something had penetrated the 'Hex' - and that was the same for earlier incursions of people and tech - although things that 'did fit' were changed to fit. (And yes I get this is all a written TV show and made up - but they do seem to have set rules); and it seems that while Wanda created/started it, she's NOT in full control of it as things move forward.

We don't know that she created/started it at all. She seems unable to remember *how* exactly it started, though that could certainly be an act.

Did they mention at all what happened to the beekeeper? I can't recall anyone at Sword bringing up his disappearance this episode. Technically we didn't even see what Wanda did to him.

They haven't mentioned him again yet.
 
We don't know that she created/started it at all. She seems unable to remember *how* exactly it started, though that could certainly be an act.
This is why I suspect she's suffering from a psychotic break. I mean it's bad enough when a normal person suffers from psychosis, but what is it like when a decidedly not normal person with the ability to warp reality looses touch with it? When their conscious mind is no longer able to distinguish reality from hallucinations and their subconscious mind is physically manifesting those those very hallucinations? That's the mental equivalent of quicksand. Insanity cubed. She doesn't actually know what she does and does not remember from one moment to the next. When she's the housewife, she mostly believes it. When something from reality breaks in, she's the grieving, deeply pissed off Avenger wanting to be left alone again.
I wonder if Monica’s X-rays being blank means that something about the hex gave her powers. The recap took a moment to make her mother’s call sign of “Photon” clear to the audience. Even if Wanda isn’t bringing over the Fox X-Men universe it could activate the powers of mutants if something goes wrong with her control over them.

I am hoping that we get an opposite of “No More Mutants” from her, maybe her wanting for there to be more people like her and her family.
It's a fair bet that she's has gotten photon powers. Though I hope it's not from being thrown out of the Hex, but from being at ground zero for the birth of the twins and whatever multiverse shenanigans brought them into existence without killing Wanda (because conservation of mass is still a thing, as evidenced by the kevlar fish pattern flairs.)
 
We don't know that she created/started it at all. She seems unable to remember *how* exactly it started, though that could certainly be an act.

they had video footage of her breaking into the location where Vision's body was stored. And then you have a town where Wanda seems to be controlling various people and situations, as well as altering reality.
^^^
Seems pretty clear she started it. And before she stepped out of the field to confront the agents, Yes it could have been a question that she didn't subconsciously in some fashion; but given the overt act of going in and taking the Vision's body; and the fact she's telepathically controlling the mines of the town's residents - and is aware enough to reset certain aspects as the Vision begins to question said reality; pretty much speaks to the fact that it's an overt act on her part.
 
they had video footage of her breaking into the location where Vision's body was stored. And then you have a town where Wanda seems to be controlling various people and situations, as well as altering reality.
^^^
Seems pretty clear she started it. And before she stepped out of the field to confront the agents, Yes it could have been a question that she didn't subconsciously in some fashion; but given the overt act of going in and taking the Vision's body; and the fact she's telepathically controlling the mines of the town's residents - and is aware enough to reset certain aspects as the Vision begins to question said reality; pretty much speaks to the fact that it's an overt act on her part.

Not really. Stealing his body is hardly the same as creating this bubble. She's acting overtly now, but there is not enough info yet to say whether she deliberately created this situation or not.
 
Not really. Stealing his body is hardly the same as creating this bubble. She's acting overtly now, but there is not enough info yet to say whether she deliberately created this situation or not.
She clearly isn’t in the control of the twins and she seemed genuinely surprised by Quicksilver returning and being recast. I do think that there is more going on than her creating a TV show to live in and Agnes really seems to know more than anyone else. There was also the scene where Vision touched Norm’s temples and he want Vision to stop “her”, he didn’t mention a name just “her”. Agnes finding the dog dead and naming it after it nearly killed itself using the outlet makes me think she was intentionally trying to get Wanda to bring it back from the dead.
 
My theory is that start of the Hex is not Wanda’s doing. Someone started it, she went in to confront them. “They” told her, she can “revive” Vision if she brings him there. She did, and kinda took over the Hex, but is definitely not in full control off it. Pietro showing up definitely wasn’t her doing. So, someone/something else is in play here.
 
I'm becoming more inclined that not only is Wanda not responsible for the Hex, but now I also wonder if that was really Wanda who confronted SWORD outside of the bubble. As I questioned earlier, it seemingly happened at the same time as Wanda and the twins were looking for Sparky and I came up with different explanations for how that happened (if it was even necessary), but perhaps the explanation is the easiest one: It was actually Agnes masquerading as Wanda. That would fit in with the idea that Agnes is Jimmy's witness but was disguised as a man at the time.

Agnes finding the dog dead and naming it after it nearly killed itself using the outlet makes me think she was intentionally trying to get Wanda to bring it back from the dead.
Oh, that's an interesting thought that I hadn't considered. That would give Agnes direct motivation for keeping Wanda captive than merely because she has magical powers.
 
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