Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread

[Tuskin38]

Wanda claims she isn’t the one who called him here. I wonder if that’s true, maybe it was subconsciously.

She can’t bring things back from the dead (I don’t think vision is alive, but more like a puppet acting like Wanda remembers), so it just pulled a Pietro from another reality.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Huh. I wonder what Monica's beef with Carol is?

I didn't read that moment as a beef, but rather a moment of sorrow. Like she hasn't seen Carol since she was a kid or Monica hasn't been able to reconnect with Carol since Monica's return and commiserate her mother's passing with Carol.

Also, I'm not sure exactly how it would be explained in-universe, but is it just me or did we just see Monica get her superpowers? Her medical scans are all blank. Sounds plausible for a character who can become light instead of matter at will.

Yeah, that would make a lot of sense. The MCU has done a great job of using big events to create new origins for heroes as they're being introduced (like it did with Wanda, Pietro, and Vision) so this would follow that same pattern.

Another thing I noticed this episode - there was a lot of speculation about whether the hydra advertisement segments pointed to a return of hydra trying to manipulate her, but after seeing the Lagos brand paper towl thing I think the 'ads' are really just a highlight reel of Wanda's greatest regrets/shame.

Maybe but I think it's more than just that. I don't think it's anything to do with HYRDA (which be both tedious and repetitive), but I'm not sure what they mean either.

 

[JD]

HOLY SHIT! I did not hear any rumors or anything about Evan Peters showing up, so when I saw him I kind of freaked out.
So now the big questions is if he is actually is playing the X-Men Pietro or if he's just there as an Easter egg. I could really see it going either way at this point.
After this episode I'm starting to wonder if the fact that the guy in charge of SWORD has the same last name as one of Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Hydra agents is not a coincidence. He seemed to kind of panic and try change the subject to moment Jimmy mentioned Hydra. Even if that is a coincidence, it definitely feels like this episode was setting him up to be the big bad.
We also finally got confirmation that she did actually resurrect Vision's actual body, rather than creating some kind of new Vision.
It definitely looks like we'll have teenage twins by the end of the series.

 

[David cgc]

That said, I'm curious how Jimmy, Darcy, and Monica know that. Is there some large recording of the battle or was the massive event reported in detail to the public after the fact. Or am I overthinking again?

There were thousands of people fighting there, and I'm sure Nick Fury (assuming that was Nick Fury and he wasn't already in space) debriefed every single one of them and put everything that happened in a big three-ring binder.

 

[kirk55555]

A pretty good episode, the Pietro thing was cool (although I saw the leaked footage so I knew he was shpowing up). We also get a reveal I had thought about, that Wanda either didn't originally make the "Hex" or at least didn't remember doing it, but started going along with it once she consciously realized what was happening. She is pretty definitively the villain now though, knowingly keeping the city hostage. I wonder if she'll end up re-killing Vision (Wanda is indirectly responsible for Vision's death in the Avengers Disassembled comic, she made She-Hulk go insane and tear him apart).

 

[The Nth Doctor]

There were thousands of people fighting there, and I'm sure Nick Fury (assuming that was Nick Fury and he wasn't already in space) debriefed every single one of them and put everything that happened in a big three-ring binder.

Yeah, that makes sense. I figured I was overthinking it but it still seemed curious that people from the FBI and a college (or wherever Darcy is working) know those details. Monica is less surprising considering SWORD.

 

[FPAlpha]

Oh damn, i didn't expect that cameo - X-Men movieverse Quicksilver! I was sure when we saw the back of his head it would turn out to be MCU Quicksiler but that opens a giant can of worms.

Personally i now believe Marvel is going full on Multiverse for their next few phases, it may be the red story thread much like the Infinity Stones/Thanos were in the first phases. Signs are there - MCU Spiderman 3 will be a multiverse movie ( Spiderman Far from Home toyed with the idea), apparently uniting all movie Spidermen and some or all of their villains, the next Dr. Strange movie has Multiverse in its movie title and its been confirmed that Wandavision will tie in directly to Strange.

First 4 episodes were "easy" to explain as Wanda losing her mind or up to the cameo that she built her own safe haven to live a pretend happy life and lessen her grief, but that cameo turned everything upside down and the scale is perhaps much bigger. Well done Marvel, that was once again a big surprise.

 

[JD]

She can’t bring things back from the dead (I don’t think vision is alive, but more like a puppet acting like Wanda remembers),

Whatever he is, she clearly doesn't have complete control over him, since he's starting to question things.
Another thing I forgot to mention in my other post that I was interesting, is that Vision's coworker was apparently fully under Wanda's control, with no awareness of what's going on, but Agatha isn't. Which makes me wonder if she's possibly helping Wanda of her own free will for some reason. They also acknowledged something that I noticed a couple episodes back, she always manages to show up at the perfect moment, to either help or create a distraction.
Could she be the one who set all of this up for Wanda, and the whole sitcom thing came from her rather than Wanda? If nothing else, that could at least get rid of any questions about how a young woman from a tiny Eastern European country knows so much about American sitcoms.

 

[David cgc]

It's interesting that Wanda's accent came back when she entered the real-world. I guess that confirms the way she spoke in the last few movies was a deliberate affectation to fit in with the Avengers, and not something that just happened because she was living in America.

 

[ITDUDE]

Could she be the one who set all of this up for Wanda, and the whole sitcom thing came from her rather than Wanda? If nothing else, that could at least get rid of any questions about how a young woman from a tiny Eastern European country knows so much about American sitcoms.

Don't know about the fictional Sokovia, but a lot of real Eastern European countries do re-run a lot of old (cheap/illegal license) American shows.

 

[FreezeC77]

It's interesting that Wanda's accent came back when she entered the real-world. I guess that confirms the way she spoke in the last few movies was a deliberate affectation to fit in with the Avengers, and not something that just happened because she was living in America.

I also wonder if that's a reflection of Wanda 'reverting' somewhat to less 'heroic' version of herself with the Avengers and more of her past self.

 

[Orphalesion]

Huh, not gonna lie I was hoping for them to return Quicksilver to life now that Disney has the rights to the X-Men again, but not sure about this "recast". I'm worried that it won't stick after the end of the show. And was kinda hoping Evan Peters would play Speed instead (though he might be too old for that by now)
That is assuming this whole show leads to a MCU version of Wiccan and Speed...

I'm also honestly not sure any longer how much of this is Wanda's conscious doing and how much is subconscious.
Anybody know how many episodes this show will have?

Could she be the one who set all of this up for Wanda, and the whole sitcom thing came from her rather than Wanda? If nothing else, that could at least get rid of any questions about how a young woman from a tiny Eastern European country knows so much about American sitcoms.

Again, American Sitcoms often have been broadcast in Europe, including in Eastern Europe after the fall of Communism, when "Western" (in the 1980s/early1990s definition of the word) culture became very popular there.
And since Sokovia was unstable even back when Wanda was a child (this episode recapped the death of their parents in an air raid and the intro showed child/teenage Wanda playing in burnt-out urban ruins) it's possible that she used those shows as a child to escape from reality and now created her own version for herself to live in.

 

[Tuskin38]

Anybody know how many episodes this show will have?

There's 4 more episodes.

 

[Orphalesion]

Wanda claims she isn’t the one who called him here. I wonder if that’s true, maybe it was subconsciously.

She can’t bring things back from the dead (I don’t think vision is alive, but more like a puppet acting like Wanda remembers), so it just pulled a Pietro from another reality.

When Wanda vision was announced there was some speculation whether Wanda messing with reality would be how they add mutants to the MCU (since characters like Professor X and Magneto have such long histories that would be difficult to retroactively re-insert into the current MCU narrative) I think that idea is a bit too optimistic, but it would be interesting and it might just work for a few characters.

There's 4 more episodes.

Nice! I was worried next week might be the last.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Descriptive Audio track for the episode apparently calls him 'Quicksilver from the X-Men Universe'.

it's Mandalorian season 2 all over again. Giving away a plot detail in the descriptive audio, lmao.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

The Descriptive Audio track for the episode apparently calls him 'Quicksilver from the X-Men Universe'.

it's Mandalorian season 2 all over again. Giving away a plot detail in the descriptive audio, lmao.

I don’t think at this point it’s his in-Universe description.
It‘s just expressing the anticipated OMG!!!1!! It‘s Quicksilver from the X-Men Universe!!! reaction of the universe.

a bit of a meta 4th wall break (or a 5th wall break in this case?)

 

[FreezeC77]

The Descriptive Audio track for the episode apparently calls him 'Quicksilver from the X-Men Universe'.

it's Mandalorian season 2 all over again. Giving away a plot detail in the descriptive audio, lmao.

If so I think descriptive audio is meant for vision impaired people so that's probably more to indicate just who it is through audio the same way someone seeing him would react to who it is.

 

[Reverend]

Guys, there's no way this isn't the actual Pietro from the X-verse. There's literally no other reason to cast THAT actor in THIS role.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Guys, there's no way this isn't the actual Pietro from the X-verse. There's literally no other reason to cast THAT actor in THIS role.

I agree. Between the title of the next Dr Strange film and the rumoured plot of the next Spider-Man one, it makes sense.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Guys, there's no way this isn't the actual Pietro from the X-verse. There's literally no other reason to cast THAT actor in THIS role.

Yup, probably so. I was just trying to keep my mind open for different possibilities. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't actually from the XMU and I guess I was bracing myself that small possibility of disappointme.