That is not how I remember John Byrne's run at all. And I'm pretty sure that story was all about the milk. Nothing was said about the meat.
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Fantastic Four Annual 17, which takes place around issue 257.
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/fantastic_four_annual_17.shtml
I could be wrong...
The original John Byrne Stuff was about milk.
But on the last page the "camera" panned, and then closed in on a slaughterhouse.
Very Twilight Zone.
Ten years later, the Skrull Kill Krew was about people who ate Skrull Meat. Firstly they could see though skrull shapeshifting tricks. Then they got Skrull powers. Then they turned into Skrulls, and their human personalities disappeared.
So there was a suicide pact.
Bikers riding across America on huge hogs, killing Skrulls, waiting for the day that their buddies had to kill them because they too turned into a no good dirty Skrull.
The original John Byrne Stuff was about milk.
But on the last page the "camera" panned, and then closed in on a slaughterhouse.
Very Twilight Zone.
Ten years later, the Skrull Kill Krew was about people who ate Skrull Meat. Firstly they could see though skrull shapeshifting tricks. Then they got Skrull powers. Then they turned into Skrulls, and their human personalities disappeared.
So there was a suicide pact.
Bikers riding across America on huge hogs, killing Skrulls, waiting for the day that their buddies had to kill them because they too turned into a no good dirty Skrull.
Just checked Comixology and that's in Volume 3. I've got a lot of other stuff to read before I start these, so it'll be a while before I get to it.
I have never liked Wanda... never made a secret out of that either... most of my dislike comes from the fact that she was never held accountable for what she's done. She joined a terrorist organization (and still doesn't see fault in that, judging by her reply to Agatha's remark about that), she unleashed the Hulk on a city, she manipulates minds - all out of some ill-conceived grief, anger and revenge.
And here she's holding countless people hostage, manipulating their minds, hurting them... again out of grief, understandable albeit utterly selfish.
She's not a child (despite what Clint and Steve always claimed), she has to face the consequences of her actions, she has to face the fact that her actions hurt other people. Disregarding those feelings (be it back in Civil War or now - and isn't it strange how she rebelled against being held by Vision at the Compound to her own safety, but has no qualms at doing the same to other people... even going as far as coercing them, taking their free will etc?) is utterly selfish, it's sociopathic and despicable... and people continuously allow her to get away with that.
That's exactly what I mean. She gets away with everything, gets a pat on her head etc.
I didn't understand Rambeau at all - it's one thing to lose your mother while you were snapped, and that's hard... but did she go on a rampage because of that? The comparison just doesn't fit. And given that the lives of people were at stake, always protecting Wanda, molly-coddling her essentially... at some point that's simply not enough.
Of course, that SWORD-director was wrong in using a cobbled together White Vision (and I loved that resolution - hope to see WV again!), and he and his plans to essentially create an army of Visions had to be stopped, but Wanda had to be stopped as well. Again, she's a selfish woman, her own emotions are the only ones she actually sees and values (and can't control)... And in the end she didn't give up Westview and her family because she realized that what she did was wrong (if so she would have faced the consequences), but because Vision told her she was wrong and Agatha made her realize her powers.
Overall, I liked the structure of this series, I liked the growing suspense... I liked to see Darcy again (even though it's a stretch that she suddenly became a hacking specialist... she's an astrophysicist), although in the end she's shoved to the side. I loved to see Vision again, and as I said the discussion with White Vision. I liked Agatha, I liked the twins. So despite my despising Wanda's actions there was much to enjoy here. Looking forward to the next entries in the MCU (and on TV...).
Just a quick note from me...I have at least 66 pages to catch up on. My family STARTED with Wanda Vision, but my wife and oldest dropped it immediately after the first episode. My 10 year old was willing to hold on, and once we got into "reality", she was really invested (wanting to binge it the next couple of days).
For us , it was worth it. For me, seeing the connections to past shows I watched was cool. ANd we look forward to seeing consequences in future MCU productions.
For us , it was worth it. For me, seeing the connections to past shows I watched was cool. ANd we look forward to seeing consequences in future MCU productions.
It's tough getting into at first if you go in blind but if you can hang on through the first couple of episodes you can make it through the entire series. It quickly endears itself.
Patience and trust no longer exists. 
You can realize you were wrong and still want to avoid legal consequences.
Crimes and Misdemeanors is more realistic than Crime and Punishment.
In fact, I submit that the average human being who did something wrong, knew it was wrong, and thought they deserved to be punished would not even consider turning themselves in unless they saw someone else at risk of being convicted of it.
Crimes and Misdemeanors is more realistic than Crime and Punishment.
In fact, I submit that the average human being who did something wrong, knew it was wrong, and thought they deserved to be punished would not even consider turning themselves in unless they saw someone else at risk of being convicted of it.
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The How It Should Have Ended video is finally here!
So it appears that Doctor Strange almost appeared in WV. I agree with the decision not to include him https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-...l-dr-strange-written-out-wandavision-1164455/
While I feel vindicated about expecting Strange to appear, I think they made the right call to exclude him at the end. However, the original intention about the commercials now makes more sense based on the original idea as oppose to the more subtle meaning it ultimately became.
But they could have used Mordo or Wong.
LA Times interview with Kathryn Hahn.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...05-18/kathryn-hahn-agnes-harkness-wandavision
https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...05-18/kathryn-hahn-agnes-harkness-wandavision
I don't know I think it's kind of disappointing. One aspect I really enjoy about the MCU is the fact it's a shared universe, and I would have enjoyed seeing Benedict Cumberbatch/Doctor Strange appearing in a situation that he definitely should have been aware of and a part of as the Sorcerer Supreme and ultimate protector of our dimensions / reality.
I personally love and wait for the little end of vignettes in every film that sometimes give a clue to what's coming next in the cinematic universe.
So yeah I think they did make a mistake by not including Doctor Strange as was originally written and planned. YMMV of course.
I personally love and wait for the little end of vignettes in every film that sometimes give a clue to what's coming next in the cinematic universe.
So yeah I think they did make a mistake by not including Doctor Strange as was originally written and planned. YMMV of course.
Agreed. A missed opportunity.
I found even the straight sitcom parody episodes more interesting than the general Marvel formula.
Not having Doctor Strange was the better creative choice in my view. WandaVision is fundamentally a story about Wanda's grief, and adding this major movie character that she has no meaningful relationship with would have pulled too much dramatic focus away from Wanda. It was a much better idea to use a combination of small supporting characters (Jimmy and Darcy) and a new supporting character who was undergoing the same level of grief as Wanda (Monica) to balance out the "real world" b-story.
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