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Spoilers Walking Dead Season 8 discussion and spoilers.

I didn't get worked up at the Shiva death since the CGI is probably too expensive to mainatin Plus keeping and maintaining a tiger is a post apocalyptic world would be complete BS. Getting that much meat to feed her would be insane plus she would end up eating someone in the Kingdom. So I just pretend Shiva never existed and was all a figment of the King's mind.

But if they do undead Shiva I swear to ***** I will throw something at my TV. No, dear god no!!!
 
Jadis is dirtied and roughed up a bit (she does, after all, live in an apocalypse) but the woman who plays her, Polyanna MacIntosh, is a gorgeous woman. So, yeah, I'll take nude Jadis "lying with me."

Pollyanna looks like one of the love children of Mick Jagger. That's not a good thing, much like her semi-nude character.

I thought this was a good episode with some interesting developments, interested in the new character and liked seeing the return of "The Three Questions." Though Carl going along with him to put down walkers not currently a threat was sort of dumb considering they should only put the walkers down when they're an actual problem otherwise they're just taking risks and, as seen here, taking on the walkers drew in a small herd.

Agreed. I do like that bit of continuity with the "3 questions", and yeah, the walker business was filler.

I've no idea what's going through Rosita and Michonne's heads.

Showrunners making them stupid, so they eventually end up in a conflict that will lead to some sort of disaster in the final two episodes of 8A.

Daryl has a lot on his mind to be pissed about, understandably, but he's going off a deep-end here. And, yeah, Tara's switch from the snarky girl with all of the jokes to being this intense person ready to kill is strange. I get she loved Denise but this reaction seems pretty drastic.

Daryl has been reduced to a dumbass. Even after the Governor, Terminus, and losing Beth to the evil cop, he was still thinking in a positive manner by telling Rick they need to bring people into the ASZ. Now, he's just violent. The completely manufactured Denise business was the motivation for Daryl to hunt Dwight/get himself and others captured by the Saviors, etc. That's it. Never bought that at all, as the on-screen relationship with Denise was never established well enough for Daryl to be so revenge-minded about someone he barely knew. As mentioned before, this also applies to Tara; being eager to kill because of Denise is her only function on the series at this point, and who cared about Tara and Denise, when .

Great, another kid hitching his star to Carol's wagon. This will end well.

Well, we can hope the series will deliberately allow fans to believe that, only for Henry to be a true survivor of the war.

And I was thinking when they went outside and saw the truck driving off, "Gee, be great to have an RPG right now, wouldn't it?!"

I believe the RPG was already loaded, and was not with additional rockets.

It will be interesting to see what develops with The Scavengers and how deep the schisms grow between the groups and friendships as we cracks are forming already.

Many a fan see the schism serving two purposes: one, to lead to so much internal conflict, that it sets the stage for a good amount of series housecleaning (deaths), and two, the survivors will be forced to reaffirm old relationships thanks to so few of the big names making it through the war. The series might flow better with a smaller group of name players.

Oh, and, shut-up Carl.

What did Carl say to warrant that?

Although I agree with the main premise - the second Negan stuck his head out, the fresh snipers should have popped him.

That should have been the case when Sasha and Rosita were on their failed assassination mission. They let Eugene being in the way stop them from taking Negan out, and yeah, they did not want to kill Eugene, but they could see he was not a prisoner, and clearly working for Negan, so....

But, in there, Rick re-encounters Morgan not far from where he first met him 9-10 months after he left his old house, the time it took for Lori to get pregnant, gestate, deliver, and for Judith to grow a little, so this means it's probably inside of a year between leaving Morgan in the old town to when they re-meet an Alexandria, where Morgan was following them.

This is a LOT of movement for Morgan to make given the situation they're all in and whether or not we want to allow Morgan to use a vehicle (and even then he'd have to be able to collect fuel for it.) To get from Georgia, to somewhere in So. Cal/Mexico (or wherever FTWD is now) then back to the Georgia/Eastern coast area to follow The Group along their path to Alexandria (including seeing the note at the church and finding the map to Alexandria) inside of a year is a lot to happen. And gets even tougher when we put in Morgan's encoutner with Eastman which is what brought Morgan back from his insanity after losing Dwayne and he had to "clear."

I just don't see how it could have happened and will be interested to see how it is done short of FTWD taking a 2-3 year time-jump until inline with TWD and for Morgan to travel to Alexandria to wherever FTWD would be taking place.

It does not make sense at all. Why would Morgan travel (we assume by himself) to the southwest, when the conditions of making it through densely populated states like (for example) Oklahoma and Texas would increase the risk of death by walkers and living predators 1000%. He had not met Eastman yet, so Morgan was very much a regular guy with no great survival skills, and full knowledge of how far the ZA had spread.

Eh, it just seems like a cheap ploy to get FTWD off of life support, and add at least one likable character to an episode or two, since just about every FTWD character is a favorite to no one. ...and I'm betting Morgan will make some reference to S1 Rick, which will prompt some FTWD character to say more than they should know about Grimes, or the situation on that side of the country.
 
That would be kind of inconsistent from what's come before, though, since the virus doesn't ever seem to have carried over into non-human hosts, such as all the myriads of deer, cows, pigs and horses we've seen get attacked and never reanimate.

Shiva is dead. Animals have never carried the walker virus, based on all of the evidence you present.
 
Up until now I would have agreed that there was no chance of them killing off Carl.
However, Chandler Riggs has been talking about wanting to leave and go to college.
That combined with the fact that
He hasn't been seen on set since filming of the mid season finale
Make me think it's a real possibility.
 
I ( and I'm sure many others) figured Morgan would be the crossover character. He has a gap or two that fits in with Fear. Because of the time difference he can also be on both shows if needed. None of the current cast have that gap, IIRC. So the only other option would have to be a past character.
 
I ( and I'm sure many others) figured Morgan would be the crossover character. He has a gap or two that fits in with Fear. Because of the time difference he can also be on both shows if needed. None of the current cast have that gap, IIRC. So the only other option would have to be a past character.

I am not great with TWD or FTWD time tables since I don't follow the shows heavily anymore. But would he be showing up after his son turned and he was losing his mind? Or would it be after meeting Rick again and regaining his sanity?
 
Pollyanna looks like one of the love children of Mick Jagger. That's not a good thing, much like her semi-nude character.

You're utterly out of your mind. She can strip me naked and enslave me in a shipping container any time she wants.
 
Shiva is dead. Animals have never carried the walker virus, based on all of the evidence you present.
If this were any other show, I would heartily agree. But, this show's bread and butter is in their cheap "shocking" moments. Trust me, I want to be wrong.
 
Up until now I would have agreed that there was no chance of them killing off Carl.
However, Chandler Riggs has been talking about wanting to leave and go to college.
That combined with the fact that
He hasn't been seen on set since filming of the mid season finale
Make me think it's a real possibility.

I believe he has already started college, so his lack of presence so far this season (he has only been in 2 episodes up to this point) makes perfect sense since he is spending more time in college.
 
I wonder if Jadis is rather a fan of Orphan Black, or in this universe, she went to art school with Felix.

Regarding the surprise... I am pretty confused...I just don't see how the timeline works with Morgan. He starts in the neighborhood where Rick lives... his son Duane dies...and I thought his insanity brought him to a town near Atlanta/Rick's neighborhood (i.e. not that far away). After that , he wandered to his Zen Master. When he died, he found his way to Terminus, and from there followed Rick to Alexandria. Pretty much all on foot.

Scott Gimple claims there is a lot of story left for Morgan, so I am really confused... does this happen in the past somehow, or will they fast forward Fear, and Morgan will have decided to leave that whole East Coast mess...which for me, would be great. It would be nice to have someone leave the show WITHOUT dying.

The problem I see is that they showed they are filming in Texas, where Madison & Klan are headed. So unless they get settled for a while, this will be a mess.

Morales REALLY should have been that person to crossover, as his future would be wide open. Abraham's time would be limited, but could certainly work for AT LEAST a season. With Madison's crazy family, I am sure Abraham's wife would want to leave.

If that takes place way back when, then it looks like no guest spots for Abraham or Rosita or Eugene.


I am still digging the main show.

Any idea how Red Mechete fits in?
 
I haven't watched Fear yet, but Morgan was gone a long time from TWD before reappearing again. Yes, we've seen pieces of what he did during that time, but it's possible that he wandered elsewhere. It's true that it may be hard to reconcile the two timeframes. When I finally get around to binge-watching it, I may have a better idea how it fits together.
 
How long would it take someone to wander from Atlanta to SoCal/West Mexico while either dodging Walker hordes or "clearing" things up... A few months?
 
Sooner if he found a vehicle. That would be the only thing to make sense if they're going to fit the journey into his disappearance gap.
 
Maybe that helicopter will be the means of getting Morgan from Virgina to Texas. What if the people flying the helicopter were some "Fear" characters? If they bring them forward in time, who knows what kind of event they might have gotten into that helped them land a functioning helicopter.

Jason
 
Maybe that helicopter will be the means of getting Morgan from Virgina to Texas. What if the people flying the helicopter were some "Fear" characters? If they bring them forward in time, who knows what kind of event they might have gotten into that helped them land a functioning helicopter.

Jason

That's been one of my thoughts but it's a question if there's enough flexibility in what's going on in FTWD for them to have a time jump and potential location jump. Because it just doesn't make any sense that in the time we didn't see Morgan he jumped between two different ends of the country during an apocalypse. Our characters struggled to get from Atlanta to the DC/Alexandria area. How long were Abraham and Co. together trying to drive Eugene to D.C.? These people have struggled to get around their own area (Rick and co. wandered around Georgia during an entire nine months before stumbling on the prison.) And after the prison fell we find out they're still within reasonable driving distance to Atlanta because we go there again with Beth and the hospital business.

But Morgan goes from Atlanta to somewhere in Mexico and then back to somewhere on the lower side of the East Coast to have the deal with Eastman and to follow Rick and Co. to Alexandria? That doesn't quite fit.
 
That's been one of my thoughts but it's a question if there's enough flexibility in what's going on in FTWD for them to have a time jump and potential location jump. Because it just doesn't make any sense that in the time we didn't see Morgan he jumped between two different ends of the country during an apocalypse. Our characters struggled to get from Atlanta to the DC/Alexandria area. How long were Abraham and Co. together trying to drive Eugene to D.C.? These people have struggled to get around their own area (Rick and co. wandered around Georgia during an entire nine months before stumbling on the prison.) And after the prison fell we find out they're still within reasonable driving distance to Atlanta because we go there again with Beth and the hospital business.

But Morgan goes from Atlanta to somewhere in Mexico and then back to somewhere on the lower side of the East Coast to have the deal with Eastman and to follow Rick and Co. to Alexandria? That doesn't quite fit.

They didn't really. That's one of the only things I was shocked about. I was dreading that Atlanta to D.C. would take six years show-wise, but they literally leave and are in the Richmond area the next episode.
 
I didn't get worked up at the Shiva death since the CGI is probably too expensive to mainatin Plus keeping and maintaining a tiger is a post apocalyptic world would be complete BS. Getting that much meat to feed her would be insane plus she would end up eating someone in the Kingdom. So I just pretend Shiva never existed and was all a figment of the King's mind.

But if they do undead Shiva I swear to ***** I will throw something at my TV. No, dear god no!!!
Word. That would just be horrible. I don't even want to think about that.
 
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