I've tried to find it on youtube but I can't find it. It was promotional stuff but I thought I would find it by looking up minisodes but couldn't find it. I wonder if it's something just for dvd or blu-ray?
Jason
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I've tried to find it on youtube but I can't find it. It was promotional stuff but I thought I would find it by looking up minisodes but couldn't find it. I wonder if it's something just for dvd or blu-ray?
Jason
That's what I was thinking too - I own neither, unfortunately. I've only just recently binged-watched seasons 1-7 on Netflix before this one started and there wasn't anything about it there either.
A gym coach. Helping the weak get strong. Yeah, that really fits, actually.
A gym coach. Helping the weak get strong. Yeah, that really fits, actually.
You know what I would love to see someday is a mini-series that deals with most of the characters in their pre-fall from society days and just get glimpse of the lives they use to have. I mean we did get that with Rick and Shane and few moments with others like the school yard scene with Lorie and Karl but it's mostly being explored just through dialogue.
Jason
Jason
And because it is preZombie era they can literally film it just about anywhere (Georgia would love it!), and cost nezt to nothing to make. They could even have cameos of other characters who just pass by because they have no reason to remember them.
They would be far more relevent than the Fear webisodes that resulted in like 1 episode worth of material/repercussions (2 1/2 episodes worth).
Is this Red Machete thing going anywhere? Is she a future Savior or something?
His form of help only exists if there's a personal benefit, so his arguments with Father Gabriel was BS. Only his reference to his wife shined a light on what might motivate his megalomaniacal behavior--IOW, brutal building of a power base as a constant response to a fight he lost long ago.
It did not look like a military helicopter at first glance, but I've always believed there are more organized groups in the ZA world than the quasi-feudal groups the series has introduced so far.
No in-series flashbacks up to this point. In fact, the only villains with flashbacks to their origins were the residents of Terminus, while the others, such as The Governor, the prison inmates and the police at Grady Memorial Hospital referred to pre-ZA events in short, random lines.
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I was aware of the gym teacher/dead wife thing but thought it had been in the comics? (which I don't read so that must have got a wider airing online or something?)
That was ok, the show seems to veer between not enough talking/just action, and too much talking. I think my favourite bit was Gabriel and Negan in the trailer, I did like the juxtaposition of them once they had the door between them, just like a confessional, and the fact that Gabriel confessed as much to Negan as vice versa, though I think it was more of a tactic on Gabe's behalf than any genuine need to confess.
It strikes me that the character Negan most reminds me of sometimes if Dukat. He's an evil man desperate to believe that he's actually the good guy and even more desperate for someone else on the other side of the fence to believe that too. I'm reminded of Dukat's words to Sisko about it not being enough to be right, its having your opponent say you were right. Suddenly Negan's actions at times makes sense. That explains why he didn't just kill Rick, why he didn't just kill Daryl, and now why he won't just kill Gabriel.
I'm not sure it's possible to turn Negan, but if anyone can do it it's Gabriel because he sees in people things no one else does and I enjoy the way he manages to be both saintly and ever so slightly creepy at the same time. He's one of my favourite characters.
How did they get out of that mass of walkers though?
The helicopter was interesting, for a moment I actually wondered if it was an hallucination. It's always been somewhat surprising that there isn't so well armed and fortified redoubt somewhere (more than one) where the wealthy, the prepared, or the lucky live in relative safety, and I guess it makes sense that they'd want to scout out the land. Must be disconcerting to view some feudal battles going on. Could be an interesting angle for the show to take, I really think it needs something because it seems a little aimless now.
Rick and Daryl came to blows quicker than I expected as well.
That was ok, the show seems to veer between not enough talking/just action, and too much talking. I think my favourite bit was Gabriel and Negan in the trailer, I did like the juxtaposition of them once they had the door between them, just like a confessional, and the fact that Gabriel confessed as much to Negan as vice versa, though I think it was more of a tactic on Gabe's behalf than any genuine need to confess.
It strikes me that the character Negan most reminds me of sometimes if Dukat. He's an evil man desperate to believe that he's actually the good guy and even more desperate for someone else on the other side of the fence to believe that too. I'm reminded of Dukat's words to Sisko about it not being enough to be right, its having your opponent say you were right. Suddenly Negan's actions at times makes sense. That explains why he didn't just kill Rick, why he didn't just kill Daryl, and now why he won't just kill Gabriel.
I'm not sure it's possible to turn Negan, but if anyone can do it it's Gabriel because he sees in people things no one else does and I enjoy the way he manages to be both saintly and ever so slightly creepy at the same time. He's one of my favourite characters.
How did they get out of that mass of walkers though?
The helicopter was interesting, for a moment I actually wondered if it was an hallucination. It's always been somewhat surprising that there isn't so well armed and fortified redoubt somewhere (more than one) where the wealthy, the prepared, or the lucky live in relative safety, and I guess it makes sense that they'd want to scout out the land. Must be disconcerting to view some feudal battles going on. Could be an interesting angle for the show to take, I really think it needs something because it seems a little aimless now.
Rick and Daryl came to blows quicker than I expected as well.
I actually kind of wonder if the show would ever talk about what happened to the President. I always wonder about that in shows and movies were society falls apart. I find it kind of interesting to think that Obama who would have been president in 2010 is hiding out in some secret government bunker, somewhere while everyone inside is waiting for the zombie plague to go away so they can come out and start rebuilding the world. We actually kind of got that story on "Jeriimiah" made years ago by JMS.
Jason
Jason
Agreed, since he already came to terms with his great sin (locking the congregation out of his church) when he prayed with Maggie and Sasha at the end of season 5
That's playing a potentially deadly game; there's no honor or recognition code in a true war, especially after you murdered some of your enemies' number. That, and the psychological tactic of having everyone feel owned/consumed by referring to themselves as "Negan" means there will never be a situation where he's seen as correct, or the greater good. His very nature rejects understanding (not that there could be understanding of a megalomaniacal killer) and invites rebellion.
I like him too, as he is still a believer in the ZA, when the series has most characters adopt some animalistic survival mentality under the guise of hope.
Walker gut camouflage, and just worming their way through the crowds.
There has to be a structured group or society somewhere. Everyone else was not on the same caught-off-guard level as the original Atlanta group. For example, the Monroes of Alexandria (sounds like a 1980s TV miniseries) established their community with self-sustaining power, water and walls fairly early into the ZA, and it still stands. Certainly, there had to be larger, better organized groups elsewhere, hence the helicopter (which needs routine maintenance of repairs, gas, etc.).
Daryl might end up at the Hilltop (sick of Rick) as one of the cliffhangers of the mid season finale.
Last Man on Earth did that a season or two back - in one of their flashback scenes during the course of the spread of the plague, they showed motorcade funerals of POTUS, then VPOTUS, then Secretary of State, then I think they skipped to Secretary of Education, and rapidly on down the line of succession to some other obscure cabinet roles on TV. Made a pretty clear point of the deadliness of the disease. It was delivered in a humorous way, too, which makes sense since LMoE is a comedy. I don't know if TWD could pull it off effectively. Don't know that it really matters this late in the series.
The helicopter..
Dr. Jenner's season one exposition that the French were closest to understanding the disease .. perhaps the outbreak was averted in Europe and elsewhere, and the carrier Charles de Gaulle is sitting off the coast of Virginia.
Hey, it makes as much sense as anything else in this show.
Dr. Jenner's season one exposition that the French were closest to understanding the disease .. perhaps the outbreak was averted in Europe and elsewhere, and the carrier Charles de Gaulle is sitting off the coast of Virginia.
Hey, it makes as much sense as anything else in this show.
Is Gabriel sick or was he tortured?
I think he was sick. Negan told his goons to "gently" put Gabriel into the lockup, plus Negan seems to want to turn Gabriel over to the dark side, like he tried with Sasha and did with Eugene.
Being covered in decaying walker guts and body waste is never good for your health.
I'm already not liking the impending schism between Daryl and Rick.
Man, I wish this show could just focus on Negan and the Saviors. They are way more interesting than Rick and his Mope Brigade. I was actually more interested in two people sitting in a trailer and Negan's board room meetings than I have been with people shooting blanks at each other for four forty-five minute episodes.
Yeah, but over the curse of eight seasons, we have not only seen several characters use walker entrails as camouflage and not become ill (the equivalent of Gabriel putting it on his clothes in this episode), but characters such as Rick and Michonne have had walker guts and blood pour on them with no negative effect.
The series needs internal consistency about that.
Reason?
I'm hoping for a nice ending to this series at some point, not some sort of extended cold war between Hilltop and Alexandria. And it does need to end, the writers room is running on fumes this season.
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I think this season has been okay but I wouldn't mind the show going with some massive character cleaning where everyone dies except Rick,Darryl and Carol and Maggie. What if the season ended in a bloodbath and the next season would be about your 4 surviving characters on their own without a support group or even a safe location to live in? A entire season that was just about the very basics of trying to survive each day without any main villian or any kind of politics you have to deal with while also having incredible trauma because everyone you cared about has been killed. Eventually new characters would come into play as well but even then I wouldn't feel the need to pull them from the comic books. Darryl and Meryl were invented characters and both ended up being great additions.
Jason
Jason
Eventually, all series end, and the sort of unacknowledged built-in, self-cancellation timer is the premise of the show; its a world overrun by zombies, so once the horror of that is no longer a novelty (and that's been gradually happening the past three or more seasons), all you have left is that quasi-feudalistic system with the enemies (Woodbury sort of worked like that as well as the Savior's system) and tribal war. That's not "survival horror" anymore (the original point of the series), and with that, the series should reach some natural conclusion. AMC, Kirkman, Hurd, et al, may not have the stones to actually bring it to an end. It may take one of the leads to want to move on (as in not moonlight on other jobs, but really break free) to force hands.
Kill off Michonne and Carl? I do not see the series doing that, although Michonne's "its your show" (paraphrasing) line to Carl almost hints that when Rick is away, she's not the leader of Alexandria, but prepping Carl for that role. Who knows?
Days of Our Lives has over 13,000 episodes so far, I don't see why The Walking Dead has to be cancelled any time soon. Especially as the show doesn't really rely on retaining specific characters, no matter what some fans will tell you. 
Seriously though, it's the same thing that SNL keeps getting. "It's not good any more, cancel it!"
Just stop watching it. Head-canon cancellation!
Seriously though, it's the same thing that SNL keeps getting. "It's not good any more, cancel it!"
Just stop watching it. Head-canon cancellation!
K
I use to think Michonne was untouchable when it comes to being killed off but she seems to have regressed as a character IMO. It doesn't even feel like she has even been in this current season and her romance with Rick is okay but not really compelling. Actually most romance in the show has been like that except with Glenn and Maggie and those of us who still want Darrayl and Carol to get together. Karl actually feels replaceable now that Rick has a baby to watch over and to provide one bit of hope if he ever did loose Karl.
Jason