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Voyager's Weapon's Complement

Everyone chalks that up to Janeway being very pessimistic in that scene; they were able to adapt and use other materials to make more.

Otherwise they got lucky as they took 20 shuttles with them as well.
 
nx1701g said:
RaulMacca said:
nx1701g said:
^ The Queen said in the episode:

I may have assimiliated your pathogen, but I also assimilated your armor technology.

There were not transphasic torpedoes in Year of Hell, they were Chroniton Torpedoes.

year of hells torpedos as I understand it are the same thing with a different name, torpedos that are out of phase with normal space time, pass through the shields and bingo, isn't that what voys transphasic torpedos done? Seven invented temporal shields or some cr*p and the day was saved.

They weren't. The Chroniton torpedoes were based on temporal science and could only pass through shields - not destroy a vessel outright because they were in temporal flux. The transphasic torpedoes overcame the Borg's abilities to adapt and delivered such high concentrations of energy that the Borg were overloaded. They simply exploded.

Two different things.

I thought The chroniton torpedos came out of flux prior to exploding hence the undetonated one seven found that had punched a hole in the hull? if it remained in flux it would surely just pass right through voyager's bulkheads.

Transphasic torpedos and their effect to me suggest they are in a state of flux as well and janeway just detonated them right next to the cubes warpcore, we know unshielded cubes can survive a full volley from a galaxy class at point blank range, these torpedos are not much more advanced in years than anything to be found on the e-d, could one really pack more punch than all the torpedos we see in first contact? My own view is no it's only like 15 years more advanced than what we see in first contact, as such I think the torpedo bypasses the cubes defences and pops up inside before detonating, also the name of the thing, *Trans*phasic could trans not stand for Transition or something?
 
RaulMacca said:
Did the borg adapt to the torpedos, or the armor? I thought it was the armor they adapted to, ofcourse seven of nine adapted to what are more or less transphasic torpedos in year of hell on her own, so it would have took the entire collective like an hour top's to figure it out.

If the knowledge was gained after assimilating Janeway, there's no reason to believe that only the armor and not the weapons were assimilated. Although the queen mentioned "armor", personally I believe it was both? Maybe at that time she'd only had time to adapt to the armor.

And 7 didn't get to adapt to the (cronoton) torpedos in YoH, or else voyager wouldn't be in 1/2 as bad shape.

Photon said:
Yep, that last V'ger torpedo pretty much kicked that Sphere's ass.

Possibly cuz the cube had not been passed information about voyager's new arsenal. The borg's communications was in a state of disarray after the patheogen.

BenRoethig said:
The Borg aren't the only other race. Transphasic Torpedoes and the armor technology would greatly shift the balance of power in the alpha quadrant.

Not necessarily. As seen previously, weapons which target the borg specifically may not be as effective against other species. Admiral Janeway specifically said that she developed "technology that could defeat the borg" in order to bring her people safely home.
 
Cronoton Torpedos - In a state of TEMPORAL flux (hence crono)

Transphasic torpedos probably in a partially phased state?
 
In this way trans means across or through all barriers.
The TT's were designed to penetrate (Borg) shielding AND hull and explode inside the ship-causing massive devesatation.
 
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