^Which, again, proves my point that different people are able to read different things into the show. So by disagreeing with me, you're actually agreeing with me! 
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Seriously?
The hell he is. He's a glib-talking smooth lying politician like the rest of 'em and nothing like our decent Spock (Spock Prime that is, not the new version.)
New-V seems to have gotten into the conflict/5th column stuff pretty quickly compared to the old one. As I recall the original, there were paranoid people early on that said "What do they want from US?" that were fairly ignored until some people stumbled onto some stuff.
This time around, the 5th column came up very quick to create conflict, and we discovder V's have been here for a while destablizing things. I heard the like about destablization as being smaller leaders creating big troubles. For instance, we haven't really seen Osama Bin Laden, but he's managed to create a lot of issues. I think, as has been said before, the vague reference fits into a lot of extremist rhetoric.
Am I wrong, or was the last scene of the last episode a reference to another BIG NON-V (Because the ships were different than the V Ships) but V-Tech-Level force out there? This is a rhetorical question, no answer required... I'm not wrong, but if I am I will change my opinion so quick it will seem as if I always had the correct one.
Lisa was very upset that the FBI V (We assume) was killed. He had info she wanted, obviously. Was it simply what he learned as an FBI agent working for the V? Or was he an unexpected 5th Column V? Or one of the V enemies unexpectedly discovered? His death REALLY pissed her off, it seems more to me than just because a 5th column person offed one of her spies (Especially since she has infiltrated heads of government).
At any rate, I'm in this for the long haul, though after the first episode I was eh. If the ships are Non-V, then there is a lot of conflict both techy and personal possible. It would also be likely that if the V have been here making trouble, the Non-V (or V-5th) have likewise been around at least monitoring/preparing. IF the ships turn out to be V ships, then we get to see what they did to their last victims, and thus what there agenda is here.
This V is moving dramatically faster than its previous Mini Series, and regular series, we are set up to see far more cool stuff in their plan than in the old series. I hope they come up with a better ending... actually, I don't see how they could come up with a worse one.
This time around, the 5th column came up very quick to create conflict, and we discovder V's have been here for a while destablizing things. I heard the like about destablization as being smaller leaders creating big troubles. For instance, we haven't really seen Osama Bin Laden, but he's managed to create a lot of issues. I think, as has been said before, the vague reference fits into a lot of extremist rhetoric.
Am I wrong, or was the last scene of the last episode a reference to another BIG NON-V (Because the ships were different than the V Ships) but V-Tech-Level force out there? This is a rhetorical question, no answer required... I'm not wrong, but if I am I will change my opinion so quick it will seem as if I always had the correct one.
Lisa was very upset that the FBI V (We assume) was killed. He had info she wanted, obviously. Was it simply what he learned as an FBI agent working for the V? Or was he an unexpected 5th Column V? Or one of the V enemies unexpectedly discovered? His death REALLY pissed her off, it seems more to me than just because a 5th column person offed one of her spies (Especially since she has infiltrated heads of government).
At any rate, I'm in this for the long haul, though after the first episode I was eh. If the ships are Non-V, then there is a lot of conflict both techy and personal possible. It would also be likely that if the V have been here making trouble, the Non-V (or V-5th) have likewise been around at least monitoring/preparing. IF the ships turn out to be V ships, then we get to see what they did to their last victims, and thus what there agenda is here.
This V is moving dramatically faster than its previous Mini Series, and regular series, we are set up to see far more cool stuff in their plan than in the old series. I hope they come up with a better ending... actually, I don't see how they could come up with a worse one.
^No, those ships were the same as the Visitor ships we've seen, just configured differently. We saw in the pilot that they're capable of reconfiguring themselves when they went into "Jumbotron" mode. These have apparently morphed into a more aggressive configuration. The first one we saw was in the process of transforming itself.
The shot was an homage to one from the premiere of the original weekly V series back in '84. In the second miniseries, the Visitor fleet had been driven away from Earth by the toxic "red dust," but the conclusion of the series premiere revealed that their fleet was still around, in hiding behind the Moon.
The shot was an homage to one from the premiere of the original weekly V series back in '84. In the second miniseries, the Visitor fleet had been driven away from Earth by the toxic "red dust," but the conclusion of the series premiere revealed that their fleet was still around, in hiding behind the Moon.
^I didn't care for the pullback. It made it look like the fleet was way out in some other star system, and if that's the case, why should we care? And if that gas giant in the background was meant to be Jupiter, that should've been made more clear.
Also, local space is not even remotely that cloudy and cluttered. I miss the days when space shots were just nice, simple stars against blackness. These days everyone has to stick all sorts of nebulae in there, and this shot just took that to a ridiculous degree.
Also, local space is not even remotely that cloudy and cluttered. I miss the days when space shots were just nice, simple stars against blackness. These days everyone has to stick all sorts of nebulae in there, and this shot just took that to a ridiculous degree.
I'm not objecting to your right to have your own opinion. But I'm just as entitled to express my opinion of the shot in this thread as you are.
I think the fleet IS in another star system, however it's fully possible their advanced tech means they'll still be here fast.
Either way, the "reveal" was hardly "revelatory." Everything about the series points to a more nefarious motive for the Vs, so seeing what is, essentially, an invasion fleet, hardly qualifies as something noteworthy.
Dammit ... it's after-school hours ... I'm supposed to be off-duty for semantics
Just make sure not to watch it while sitting on the toilet. Then it'd be revealavatory.
Ditto. As I recall, we saw one or two familiar planets, then we passed through a ring of something which I took to be the Oort Cloud (and good on them for remembering the Oort Cloud), then after a distance we arrived in the solar system where the rest of the V fleet is waiting (?).
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
I'm just happy to see actual spaceships in actual outer space on TV again. I thought TV forgot that spaceships exist.
And no, Stargate doesn't count.
Presumably the V's have FTL drive like all good space aliens do. Hard to take them seriously if they don't!
^Technicalities and after-the-fact rationalizations aside, my point is that if they wanted to convey the immediate, visceral impression of imminent danger from an enormous alien fleet, a shot that went out of its way to show that the fleet was wayyyyyyyyyy over there kind of undermined that goal. In short, they overdid it. They got so caught up in making the shot as big and long and flashy as they could that they diminished its potency in favor of superficiality. Which is pretty much symptomatic of their approach to the whole series so far.
*Shrug* I thought the sheer numbers of the awaiting fleet plenty succeeded in conveying a sense of impending menace. (Of course, I continue to hope that 'all is not as it seems' with regards to that fleet...)
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
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