I was seriously waiting for Eric the Actor to show up afterword in a rage saying he doesn't say "ACK! ACK!"
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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These people already exist. They've been at it since insisting Old Spock in ST'09 wasn't the character from TOS and the classic movies.
I'm sure the usual suspects will get some YouTube clickbait from it.
the enterprise shows up in walmart's super bowl 2020 spot:
looking really slick.
and slightly less slick...
Even that brief shot of it warping in is sexy! That revision of the design is just sexy all over and it always shows! Not to mention: They used the ENTERPRISE, not the Discovery in the commercial! That tells you a lot!
It's still iconic, despite the updated look. Just like Godzilla and his many changes and sizes.
All that tells me is that the Discovery ship is ugly and the Enterprise is a classic look that many people, fans or not, will recognize.
Discovery is an ugly ship, no way around it. There's a reason the design concept was scrapped when it was considered for Star Trek Phase 2 decades ago
That, and right now it's the "official" TOS Era Enterprise. It was far more likely they'd use this version than the classic TOS Enterprise with some CGI upgrades.
Alternate timeline...nah.
Alternate universe...why not.
Crisis on Infinite Treks...bring it on.
Planet Of The Titans considered using that design for the Enterprise.
There were two "study models" cobbled together. One of which was seen in STIV inside spacedock, and one was seen in the Qualor ship depot (IIRC).
I personally like the design as well as any SF ship, just not as "the" Enterprise. Way too different in design compared to say, the TMP refit.
It's great for the hero ship to actually have a distinct feel: VOY for one suffered from not managing to convince anybody that "this isn't your parents' or grandparents' Trek". Also, it's great for a hero ship in-universe to have a distinct mission: VOY again was more of the same, with generic exploration and pew-pew, but also ENT with its distinctly shaped ship followed the pattern.
Here the triangle hull looks strange, which is good and distinct. And the ship is a flying laboratory, which is good and distinct. Although why a flying lab would need to look like that is where we enter fanwanking.
...My take has always been to bow to my predecessors and declare the humugous-shuttlebay-door triangles "carriers". And then decide that NCC-1031 is a retired one, its vast internal volume converted into housing modular experiments (with plenty of space left unused, hence the turbolift funhouse feel), much like some WWII carriers were converted to command ships.
The Enterprise in turn comes from the mainstream school of shipbuilding and is as generic as it gets. She just happens to be an ancient design by the time of DSC, a casualty replacement built in 2245 to specs half a century old...
Timo Saloniemi
Here the triangle hull looks strange, which is good and distinct. And the ship is a flying laboratory, which is good and distinct. Although why a flying lab would need to look like that is where we enter fanwanking.
...My take has always been to bow to my predecessors and declare the humugous-shuttlebay-door triangles "carriers". And then decide that NCC-1031 is a retired one, its vast internal volume converted into housing modular experiments (with plenty of space left unused, hence the turbolift funhouse feel), much like some WWII carriers were converted to command ships.
The Enterprise in turn comes from the mainstream school of shipbuilding and is as generic as it gets. She just happens to be an ancient design by the time of DSC, a casualty replacement built in 2245 to specs half a century old...
Timo Saloniemi
This. And to be honest (and I say this as someone who hates the squished profile and thinks it robs the design of its majesty), it's close enough and such an iconic shape that anyone seeing the commercial knows it's the Enterprise going on adventures in space. Which is exactly the point.
And in the Starfleet Headquarters hologram we saw it from below. Except for the pylons you can barely tell the difference.
Pretty much, and for all we know we'll see Short Treks or such, or even a Pike series, where the Enterprise progressively becomes visually closer to the TOS E we always have known. The entire purpose for the hologram was simply to establish Discovery as being in the prime timeline, which it has.
Exactly.
In general I find that a lot of designs grow on a person..
I hated the Enterprise E at first because it was such an extreme departure from the Enterprise D..
Now it's probably my second favorite starship design...the Constitution Refit still can't be displaced for me.
I hated the Enterprise E at first because it was such an extreme departure from the Enterprise D..
Now it's probably my second favorite starship design...the Constitution Refit still can't be displaced for me.
Probably not, and I'm OK with that. I don't feel we need to progress "back" into a design that was made to look good on 1960's pre-SD TV.
Plus, if they were going that route, they might have removed those saucer windows/lights when half the saucer got blown off by that torpedo and required a massive rebuild.
Well I don't mean necessarily the Enterprise be reverted to the TOS Enterprise wholesale..but something like having the grey hull with aztek paneling, more TOS styled graphics, etc, or even just going with a pylon change or something.
I'm not torqued either way about it, unlike the people who are writing off Picard entirely due to the brief appearance of one holographic ship for two seconds
I'd rather a Pike show just keep the current Disco-Enterprise bridge look, and then a reference guide no one reads can say that it was bridge module swapped into Kirk's bridge during the switch from Pike to Kirk.
Swap the bridge module before WNMHGB, fine. Refits to make it look like the TOS version is what I would want.
If she ends up looking like the Defiant in "IaMD(ENT)" on the outside but like the DSC Enterprise on the inside then I'll be fine with that. Just make her outsides look like a high-def TOS Enterprise and a lot of people would probably be happy.
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