and let’s not forget the recasting of characters that was just a little too good for just one or two episodes.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Jar Jar was not funny. Uhura was.
YMMV
Jar Jar was occasionally funny, and often annoying. I've seen a couple of fan attempts at correcting the issue in fan-altered versions of The Phantom Menace, but they tone him down so much that he becomes boring instead. I have to say, I'll take the annoying if I can avoid him being boring.
I know I'm, like, SUPER late to the party, but I wanted to add my 2 cents anyway:
I think it's fine. Like, I think it could be much better, but also much worse. It's inoffensive, really. Pretty much exactly like the CGI-model of the Enterprise. It's definitely far, far away from being as iconic or stylish as the original, and I'm sure in 5 years it will be mostly forgotten. But it looks like a reasonable "Enterprise"-bridge for a current day show.
Disco-bridge vs. JJbridge
What I find fascinating - very much like the CGI model of the ship itself - is that the DISCO-bridge takes far more details 1:1 from the original design than the JJbridge. But overall, the JJbrige "feels" much closer to the original. This one still is bulky, dark, and looks like a Berman-era bridge. Very in line with the rest of DIS' design language. Wheras the JJbridge managed better to be stylish, futuristic, and adventureous. (I'm not really a big fan of the Kelvin-timeline movies. But the production design was top notch!).
A few little nuggets I noticed:
- Looks very TRON-like
- It's obviously inspired by the Kirk-era bridge, not Pike's grey "the cage"-version. Shame. I really liked the light/blue-ish grey bridge with black details and bright, orange screens.
- I really like what they did with the red accents: Having them be light-stripes works relly well on screen
- I like that they carried over the colorful lights
- I wish they also added a top row of space-pictures the original had - this one feels a bit claustrophobic with the ceiling being comparatively lower to the overall volume
- Generally, I think they layout (consoles, railings, screen) is really, really well done. The problem is the walls - they look very uninspired
- I think the biggest flaw is the color-scheme. The surfaces are too dark, and the generic blue displays don't mesh that well with the red highlights. Much like the Discovery-bridge herself, the same layout would look a LOT better with brighter paint and more natural display colors
Fine.
It ain't gonna' replace the original or come close. But it's obvious a lot of genuine care and thought went into it. Even if it's not super impressive (there aren't going to be many articles about "look at Kirk's iconic bridge re-imagined!" anywhere on the mainstream Internet) - it's a comppletely reasonable upate with quite a few clever ideas hidden in there.
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I would be highly surprised if anyone approached it from this attitude.
I think it's still too early for a verdict. We need to see the entire bridge. Beside it seems the ship may be under red alert in the scene the photo is from.
So we still don't know how the bridge looks like under normal circumstances.
People are arguing about the most random stuff. Bridge design can change anyway. People were upset about the Millennium Falcon looking different in Solo, but then found out how it came to look like the Falcon we know. So maybe the bridge looks one way now, it’ll get blown up a bit, then redone in a more familiar way.
For TNG, I really liked the design from Yesterday’s Enterprise a lot more than the usual bridge, but I guess they like having a little room for Q’s mariachi band. Or if someone needs to get thrown a considerable distance for whatever reason.
For TNG, I really liked the design from Yesterday’s Enterprise a lot more than the usual bridge, but I guess they like having a little room for Q’s mariachi band. Or if someone needs to get thrown a considerable distance for whatever reason.
Isn't Enterprise-C bridge just Enterprise bridge from the movies?
I think my biggest "problem" is the dark grey/almost black paint scheme. That will stick with or without the red light. I know it's extremely minor - like the beards and hair on the Klingons - but it actually goes a loooong way in determining the overall feel and look of the bridge.
As such, yes, I think this one might be closer to the TOS one than the JJ Abrams bridge (though only marginally, because it directly lifts more details), but I think the JJbridge is the better "spiritual" successor - in that it evokes a closer "feel" to the original with it's look. Same for the overall ship design (I really dig Ryan Chuch's design, wheras I don't really care for John Eaves' NX-01'ed up TOS Enterprise one way or the other).
Your mileage my vary. Wildly. Obviously.
Partially. It's basically a reuse of the TNG battle bridge, which was itself a partial redress of the movie Enterprise bridge.
Uh, not really, it's a rather involved hodgepodge of set elements where those coming from the TOS movies are in a distinct minority. It's related to the TNG Battle Bridges and DS9 Guest Starship Bridges in that sense - but you'd be hard pressed to find anything specific that's similar, be it details or shapes or dimensions. See e.g. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/bridges/federation-bridges2.jpg ...
The Discoprise bridge looks amazingly like a redress of the NCC-1031 bridge, even though it is not. Yet it's cool how distinct the Shenzhou bridge managed to look, and how distinct the S31 ship control center is. But IMHO Trek spinoffs have always managed this with their alternate bridge sets.
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I don't get how folks didn't understand from the outset, that Jar-Jar WAZ SUPPOSEZD 2 B ANNOYIONG!
Qui-Gon and Obi Wan practically tell him this to his face on several occasions in the movies.
I felt the need to point that out, because any other time I compare DIS' production style with the JJ one, there are at least three or four further comments like "hurr, durr, now that DIS is the new thing, everyone hates on DIS, and the JJmovies are somehow the perfect old Trek".
No. I still think they're very weak and flawed movies, with ST09 being the best of the bunch. And while I think DIS is FAR from perfect and has a lot of issues going on - especially stuff that carries directly over from those same movies, in that it treats itself more like a generic superhero show where the main goal is to defeat the badguy(s) of the season, instead of being a straight SF-concept show - I still like DIS a great deal more than the movies. Even if I think the movies LOOKED a whole lot better. These opinions are not mutually exclusive.
If the bridge is modular,it is a big change from The Cage and WNMHGB.
The lights are also dimmed, which would make the walls look darker.
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