Best I could do with the source material. Still looks awful..To me, both those images look like somebody as been enabling the Enterprise with Antimatter Cookies and Potato Chips for far too long.
FAT is not better.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Wait, wait....
What about this design, with some small mods? It could work..
Its difficult trying to make the Kelvin designs look good. I kinda like this look. Tho it needs some texture and skin improvements on the hull. I still like it. Tho not a fan of the upper nacelles.
I’ve seen that ship in the past, and it doesn’t work for me. It’s just another case of changing a design just for the sake of changing it.
I think that if the original TOS Enterprise design was used in DSC (with the only change being the textures to make it look more realistic, not just adding things that weren’t there originally), it would have worked fine. Granted it would have looked nothing like the rest of the DSC ships, but then the season 2 D7/K’t’Inga-like ship seen in the trailer will look nothing like season 1’s Klingon ships...
NahAt least the new DSC E needs spires on the nacelles and a tall bridge module to be the Pike era E...
The spikes could come and go anyways. If they're some sort of Bussard sensor or supplementary scoop to grab additional matter from the surrounding space and a couple of different models came and went then the Enterprise can have a pair in 2254, lose them by 2257 and then have another pair installed for another mission profile in 2265 at the time of the second TOS pilot, with them finally being removed for good by the time the regular series rolled around.
The back vents of the nacelles also disappeared by 2266 as well, so the refits to turn the ship into what we saw in TOS could have removed the final pair of Bussard cap spikes and added the spheres to the back ends of the nacelles. Pretty simple explanation, really, without requiring a massive and overly complicated in-universe explanation.
The back vents of the nacelles also disappeared by 2266 as well, so the refits to turn the ship into what we saw in TOS could have removed the final pair of Bussard cap spikes and added the spheres to the back ends of the nacelles. Pretty simple explanation, really, without requiring a massive and overly complicated in-universe explanation.
A ship that changes with time is a cool thing. It used to be one of the main attractions in the adventures of Jacques-Yves Cousteau, too: spot the antenna config or the positioning of the helipad and establish the year in which the Calypso dares the Antarctic or finally meets the right whale.
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
They borrowed the TMP saucer but otherwise, all the other shapes and proportions are totally different.
John Eaves recycles concept art all the time. The Shenzhou was his old Next Gen-era fanclub design, his Klingon Warbird concept from ST'09 was his unused ENT-era Klingon battlecruiser, and his NCC-1701 is his old NX-01 concept. All tweaked a little for the current project, but it's the same stuff.
I can;t wait to hear how they completely changed the bridge from "The Cage" to DiscoTOS and then changed it back again (with one or two minor changes) for TOS proper.
It has the bands around the edge, but quite a bit of the Abrams saucer is different from the refit.
The point was not to reboot the design but update it. It should be visually recognisable as the TOS Enterprise. That's what they wanted and its a success.
What defines it as a success?
It's a "well known scientific fact" that the bridge modules can be swapped in and out. They've just never shown it happening on-screen
. It would be more about the stations and consoles and other tech changes than the look of it.The one could have come out to be upgraded, then put back in without recarpeting or repainting.
In this case a design that looks close enough to the original to be considered in universe while at the same time visually updated for an audience who would never accept the 60s version.
Would I be happier with the original? Yes. Am surprised that they updated the look? No. But to me it says TOS far more than the jjprise did.
That's my only real criticism of Eaves's work, his style is so distinctive it overrides the design elements of the era. So you can put any design in any era with a minimum of tweaking. I consider that a weakness not a strength.
Replace the pylons and warp nacelles would be a good start toward getting to the TOS 1701.
Modular bridge.
Why are we all jumping to explain changes in the Enterprise when nothing in the show tries to be consistent with classic Trek in any way??? Why are new Klingons and uniforms and technology all okay so long as we explain the Enterprise being upgraded and then downgraded again?
Because there is no way we have seen every single Klingon design in their history. That is impossible and I have no issue with that, whatsoever.
Again, even GR kind of hand waved away TOS in the novel by calling it a "recreation" of Kirk's adventures. There have been explanations of every inconsistency across Trek. Only now, with Discovery, is it suddenly not OK? O_o
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