USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

[Spaceship Jo]

I have to disagree, even though -yes- it absolutely feels like it!
Because the last few iterations have been absolutely terrible, and utterly predictable - just smoosh the usual design elements on the surface, done!

But every now and then, there is amazing fan-art like this, which manages to do both something completely unique and new, while also being amazingly faithfull to the original:

Which -btw- I have no idea from whom it's coming from, so if anybody can help tell me with who the creator of this is, I'd appreciate that immensely!


And as you said: The last successfull attempt at re-inventing the original was the 2009 version. That's not that long ago. All it really takes is honestly a completely new aproach, with new ideas, and not bound by the "obvious" design choices, preferably from something outside.
All it takes, is sometimes just a fresh pair of eyes.

Totally agree with you in concept, but completely disagree with your fanart example. To me (and this is quite subjective), that represents the exactly the kind of creative dead-end we're talking about: neat, but really just a mishmash.

 

[Tuskin38]

But every now and then, there is amazing fan-art like this, which manages to do both something completely unique and new, while also being amazingly faithfull to the original:

the nacelles look like the doomsday machine, and a traffic light

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I'd have been happy with some extra surface details.

 

[pst]

But every now and then, there is amazing fan-art like this, which manages to do both something completely unique and new, while also being amazingly faithfull to the original:

this has been posted before, it was designed before we saw discovery's version and i find it more interesting and faithful to the discovery aesthetic than the real one we got from eaves. not that i don't like that ship, it's a good design, just not a risky or particularly interesting design.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

this has been posted before, it was designed before we saw discovery's version and i find it more interesting and faithful to the discovery aesthetic than the real one we got from eaves. not that i don't like that ship, it's a good design, just not a risky or particularly interesting design.

Ugh.

I'd have been happy with some extra surface details.

The saucer's more or less alright, but the rings on the engineering hull and nacelles make it look like the fuckers've sprung leaks.

 

[Tuskin38]

Those rings are on the studio model, they're just a lot harder to see.

 

[BillJ]

The saucer's more or less alright, but the rings on the engineering hull and nacelles make it look like the fuckers've sprung leaks.

Just hope they aren't using rubber o-rings?

 

[Gepard]

Totally agree with you in concept, but completely disagree with your fanart example. To me (and this is quite subjective), that represents the exactly the kind of creative dead-end we're talking about: neat, but really just a mishmash.

It's also a fan model of one of Ryan Church's unused Star Trek '09 concepts. Underscoring my point that '09 was the last one to do anything truly unique.

 

[BillJ]

It's also a fan model of one of Ryan Church's unused Star Trek '09 concepts. Underscoring my point that '09 was the last one to do anything truly unique.

Problem being they've kinda hemmed themselves in with the "Prime" non-sense. So they have to make something that is recognizable, while a little bit different for licensing purposes.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Those rings are on the studio model, they're just a lot harder to see.

I'm aware. But in one case it's expertly executed with subtlety to suggest a construction of scale, in the other it isn't remotely.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

The saucer's more or less alright, but the rings on the engineering hull and nacelles make it look like the fuckers've sprung leaks.

True, I'm not a fan of the overweathering on the secondary hull but everything else about it looks great.

 

[BillJ]

True, I'm not a fan of the overweathering on the secondary hull but everything else about it looks great.

Must be after "Tomorrow is Yesterday". The ship took a beating in that one.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

They can't though, the toy is already on sale. People are going to be pretty pissed if they suddenly swap it out.

It's happened before. Someone at Playmates approved a toy of the Enterprise-E from "First Contact" based on a version that was not the final one. Crazy nacelles and all!

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Playmates_USS_Enterprise-E_First_Contact.jpg

Mark

 

[fireproof78]

It's time to pack it up boys.

Yup.

Which -btw- I have no idea from whom it's coming from, so if anybody can help tell me with who the creator of this is, I'd appreciate that immensely!

I thought that might be another Church design. I have a similar fan art on one of my computers so I'll see what I can dig up.

 

[Rahul]

It's also a fan model of one of Ryan Church's unused Star Trek '09 concepts. Underscoring my point that '09 was the last one to do anything truly unique.

Huh? Interesting! I thought it was an independant design. Do you have a link to more of Church's unused designs? I'd really like to see that!

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I quite like this fan redesign.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I quite like this fan redesign.

It's the Autoprise!

 

[Gepard]

Huh? Interesting! I thought it was an independant design. Do you have a link to more of Church's unused designs? I'd really like to see that!

None that include the image I was thinking of, which is reprinted in the Art of the Film book which I sadly do not own (but not so sadly as to rectify it, apparently). There's some other design work here, including a sketch version similar to the design you posted.

 

[pst]

Huh? Interesting! I thought it was an independant design. Do you have a link to more of Church's unused designs? I'd really like to see that!

here's some:

 

[cooleddie74]

Ugh.

This.

I mean...come on.