Or adjusted for inflation since the late 1960s, twenty-four lights.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Which gets us right back into a DISCO, baby! [/Austin Powers]
I did some digibashing.. I think they could refit it into this design. Place the light a single small dome just below the two phasers? deflectors? I forget what those two domes are in front of the bridge section. Anyhow, a single dome dead center between the two bulbs, down a bit and that light can cast over the logo.. Those massive lights I hope get designed out by the time Pike's ship refits and goes to Kirk later. Maybe this is the story of the Enterprise pre-refit, and early days pike? Maybe his ship gets refit, and looks more like the digibash?
That would actually make a great intro into a Pike captained Enterprie series.. Especially if it gets funky with aliens like in Kirk's days, only with vastly superior CGI and costume stuff.. I could fall in love with a series like that, and take an interest in seeing who is now taking on Discovery's captain chair. Interesting if every season the ship and crew are sent on the most weirdest missions with various captains taking command per season. Like Discovery is some kind of anthology ship, same crew, different alternating commanders and missions out of the ordinary for any other ship. Hence the spore drive. directives sometimes lead them to go to the gamma quadrant or center of the galaxy. that would keep my interest in STD and may even persuade me to call it Disco.. we'll see..
We'll see, here's hoping things will get a little more back to format and some sense of direction that leads to better designs, stories and fun ultimately.. lighter STD episodes, and mood lighting.. stop with all the blues already!! if it's not flares, its something else. You would think they would learn. annoying lighting is not a director signature, like putting a good stamp on it, it's making the audience suffer your poor lighting choices that you think makes it unique.
Just stop it already.. that goes for RED DWARF too! how the hell can you see anything in that lighting?? Blues everywhere!! sorry..
Sugar high there.. Had some crispy creams and coffee..
That would actually make a great intro into a Pike captained Enterprie series.. Especially if it gets funky with aliens like in Kirk's days, only with vastly superior CGI and costume stuff.. I could fall in love with a series like that, and take an interest in seeing who is now taking on Discovery's captain chair. Interesting if every season the ship and crew are sent on the most weirdest missions with various captains taking command per season. Like Discovery is some kind of anthology ship, same crew, different alternating commanders and missions out of the ordinary for any other ship. Hence the spore drive. directives sometimes lead them to go to the gamma quadrant or center of the galaxy. that would keep my interest in STD and may even persuade me to call it Disco.. we'll see..
We'll see, here's hoping things will get a little more back to format and some sense of direction that leads to better designs, stories and fun ultimately.. lighter STD episodes, and mood lighting.. stop with all the blues already!! if it's not flares, its something else. You would think they would learn. annoying lighting is not a director signature, like putting a good stamp on it, it's making the audience suffer your poor lighting choices that you think makes it unique.
Just stop it already.. that goes for RED DWARF too! how the hell can you see anything in that lighting?? Blues everywhere!! sorry..
Sugar high there.. Had some crispy creams and coffee..
How do people see after staring at LED computer screens all day?
I don't know. I have a crystal display..
Here's a thing.. so how do you escape a Black hole singularity?? Why simple, ask Janeway, Just open the anti-matter injectors to 120% and lickity Split, you're out of it just like that. snap of the fingers and on to other things. Janeway, you clever witch you.
Janeway, you clever witch you.
Now there's an idea....Kate Mulgrew can have a role in the reboot of Charmed.
Still blue light.
So "The Cage" happens, then they refit the ship. But then they de-fit the ship again for TOS proper? And go back to the old dumpy uniforms? And jelly bean buttons And blinking coloured squares?
Maybe its a convertible. You press a button and the nacelle pylons slide backwards, the front opens up into a window...
I actually wouldn’t mind if the Enterprise could change her outward appearance. Maybe the nacelle struts are an early form of variable warp field geometry and related to the transwarp project? And the window has a blast screen.So "The Cage" happens, then they refit the ship. But then they de-fit the ship again for TOS proper? And go back to the old dumpy uniforms? And jelly bean buttons And blinking coloured squares?
Maybe its a convertible. You press a button and the nacelle pylons slide backwards, the front opens up into a window...
I would prefer that the writers try and come up with a creative explanation that works within the established trends and tropes of Star Trek, over just having to accept the ship as-is, no questions asked. I say this as Star Trek has a history of explicitly highlighting and explaining visual changes - c.f. Augment virus.
Would it really be that much in the way of fan service to see the Enterprise’s nacelle struts straighten and the bridge window close? Or would it expand the possibility for creative storytelling? I think the latter, but mileage varies.
Also, the interior is less of an issue for me - and the uniforms - I actually like the Enterprise uniforms.
There is a line relating to common sense when I discuss the visual reboot. I am cognisant of the fact that an update had to occur. I don’t think it had to be as drastic as it was. And it could still be modified to fit better within the prime continuity of Star Trek.
These are just my opinions of course - I’m no more an authority on Star Trek than anyone else.
*grabs pitchfork* “TOS fanboiiiiii!!!”Why is it when people who absolutely love this New STD design, always describe and refer to the TOS as looking something like this.. Complete with womanizing Captain in a pseudo 60s style Penthouse...
When in actuality it was really like this...
Pretty comforting for some reason. I love the look. Now, take the Sick bay of the NX Prometheus, and it looks like it could also be from that ship (say if you weren't familiar with the classic sick bay-with fresh eyes).. the computer on the desk, on the wall, it's standard Starfleet even if slightly more stylized.
All I am saying is the classic TOS may seem dated, but it's not THAT outdated in terms of design. If updated correctly, which had been done from time to time under the convenient term "Refit" it's been made to look more advanced each new iteration. If the STD designers could capture the bridge from the TOS with some updates and straddle the line on it pretty good, then the exterior, with it's god awful logo lights and slit flat hull to accommodate that crap, then fine I guess I could become somewhat a fan of the new ship.. maybe they refit it before Kirk and it shows up after the season 2 ends and Pike's New series begins, and it looks more like the original without that flattened front section and scale down the thickness of the nacelles a bit.. and maybe a lighter hull gray, as they move towards the eventual white color of NCC-1701 A.
Here's hoping.. Maybe this Enterprise gets torn up by series end, and just as the finale runs, there's a refit and it looks even more like the TOS in some ways, bright gray and beautiful.. . I would watch.
I’m just kidding. I totally agree with what you’re saying here.
For some, it seems, the designs of TOS just don’t look like the future any more.
Which makes sense considering the effect of TOS *on* the future of the 60s - i.e. tablet pcs, flipphones, Bluetooth headsets etc.
But, with a bit of creativity, the Enterprise could have looked much more like the prime ship - which I think still looks futuristic even now.
Someone here suggested that the consoles could have been holographic and the jelly bean buttons could have been reconfigured for different purposes - they’d have still looked like buttons but their functionality would have been modernised etc.
The only other problem is the exterior but the prime Enterprise wouldn’t have fit alongside the Eavesisms that comprise the rest of the DSC fleet.
This is just my opinion of course
Here is a quote from Eaves when he was talking about the Klingon D-4 concept:
"if you think about the whole series of the TV shows and movies you'd think that the really heavy detail look would be prior to the smooth look (of the '60s TV show ships)."
I think living in Nurnia has taken its toll on him.
Here is a quote from Eaves when he was talking about the Klingon D-4 concept:
"if you think about the whole series of the TV shows and movies you'd think that the really heavy detail look would be prior to the smooth look (of the '60s TV show ships)."
I think living in Nurnia has taken its toll on him.
It sounds like he's agreeing with fans who think the TOS enterprise looks more advanced because it's smooth and simpler.
Maybe he does agree, but he was directed to update the look so he did. A perfectly smooth hull wasn't going to cut it with the people in charge or (probably) most fans.
That has like a steampunk attitude towards it I think - like “old things must have valves and bolts and rivets and such”. I don’t think ENT was quite successful in conveying the retrograde step from TOS (at least as far as exteriors were concerned. The interiors looked great) if that was the approach they took.Here is a quote from Eaves when he was talking about the Klingon D-4 concept:
"if you think about the whole series of the TV shows and movies you'd think that the really heavy detail look would be prior to the smooth look (of the '60s TV show ships)."
I think living in Nurnia has taken its toll on him.
I don’t have to reference the state of the art USS Zumwalt again do I? Smooth as an android’s bottom and the most advanced thing in the sea. Did the TOS Enterprise predict that? I’ll let *you* decide.
But the answer’s “yes”.
(^ banter)
I still don’t see why that wouldn’t cut it. The TOS era seemed to be defined by simple smooth ships with basic geometric shapes - based on the Enterprise, romulan and Klingon ships, the K7 space station, etc. Even other alien ships were smooth and featureless.
Maybe because DSC is still a prequel to TOS, Eaves’s prior instinct of “really heavy detail look would be prior to the smooth look (of the '60s TV show” is still in play? So greebles.
It's a stealth ship, which is why it has all those flat surfaces.
Just like the F-117, F-35, and F-22 stealth fighters. the way the surface is shaped is to lower the surface signal or reflect radar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_ship
True but it’s still state of the art.
Phones, cars, televisions - they’ve all tended towards being smooth and featureless over the years. There’s no reason to think that tendency wouldn’t continue into the future and that ships like the Enterprise wouldn’t be smooth and featureless.
Also future stealth ships are invisible.
Then why are most of the ships after TOS timeline wise not like this?
If the TOS connie’s design so damn amazing, why didn’t they keep using the smooth surface on other ships after it?
Star Wars.
No, the ships after TOS are not Star Wars type detailing.
Star Wars is all Greenble and nonsense detail just to make everything look ‘used’
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