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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

I don't argue that he did. But if you side by side compare NX-01, Defiant and i.e. Akira which item stands out as different, out of place?
The Connie, because it is more advanced.

What the hell is ST Adversaries?
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They're the first officially licensed Star Trek product to have the DSC Connie, and any of the Klingon ships other then the Sarc (STO had it first)
 
Are those phasers/torpedo tubes right in front of the sensor dome?
Looks like it. Sorry, I don't recall if they were explicitly used in the actual ENT episode. But that's pretty much where the beams usually came from on TOS.

I'm not an expert on what surface features are specifically present on the model (or any version of any production model, for that matter).

Good catch, though; it would seem that these are not just part of the surface texture but actual emplacements of some kind.
 
The DSC Connie also puts Torpedo tubes and phaser emitters around there.

I can't find any rear ones on the DSC Connie though.
 
The Connie, because it is more advanced.


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They're the first officially licensed Star Trek product to have the DSC Connie, and any of the Klingon ships other then the Sarc (STO had it first)

Any good or typical pew pew?
 
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Not to nitpick or pile on, but the port side windows shouldn't be there.
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The "source" in my post is from "Metamorphosis", a second season episode episode of the original series. The model shown is the definite article, if you will.
Every appearance after TOS has them. So they've been retconned in.

They're there in TOS Remastered, DS9 and Enterprise.
 
So much so, that they are still selling models of it fifty years later. :eek:

They're also selling models of some really obscure ships as well. I'm not going to say TOS doesn't have fans (I'm one), I am saying that the TOS Enterprise looks heavily dated and overly simplistic.

I know I keep bringing this up. But as they say a picture (or 8 in this case) is worth a thousand words.

And even with all the excellent CGI and graphics, it still looks like a cheap looking 60's TV model, just in an expensive movie. It simply has too little detail and is made up of simplistic shapes.

That's not actually an argument, it's just an example of circular reasoning, assuming your conclusions as if they're premises. It's all been discussed at length before, but to summarize: the TOS production values at the time were anything but cheap, although they do look primitive compared to today's TV production technology. However, the production values are not the same thing as the designs, most of which are innovative, creative, carefully considered, visually striking, and memorable

For the expectations of the time, yes. Those expectations changed drastically as little as a decade later. A couple of plain looking cylinders attached to a plain looking flying saucer just looks silly. It needed the extra details so it could meet modern expectations.

Hence why they made all the changes for TMP and didn't just make the same model but with more surface details.

and still look distinctive and "futuristic" today.

Distinctive yes, futuristic no. While the design was a successful attempt at a departure from rocket ships, it still looks like it's firmly part of the Flash Gordon era. Especially when it has the nacelle spikes.

Moreover: literally everything about Star Trek is grounded in "1960's sci-fi expectations" (that's why it has an optimistic future full of human space travel, for heaven's sake!), so if you reject that you're pretty much rejecting a core defining characteristic of Trek, thematically, regardless of any or all visual elements.

No it isn't. 50-60's sci-fi expectations was a cheap looking action adventure, not something to take all that seriously, like Lost in Space. Star Trek TOS really pushed the envelope by a considerable amount, but it was never that far from those expectations.

The movies of the 70's (not just Star Wars) changed all that and people then expected sci-fi to look high-budget and be "serious". Something which TV sci-fi understandably had real difficulty in achieving at the time.

Hence why when we got a movie, it was so visually and stylistically different. Klingon's had alien makeup (no explanation given), we got special effects for warp, the Enterprise was now a massively detailed model with more complex shapes and details. That first movie tried to take itself so seriously there was no fun whatsoever in it.
 
Every appearance after TOS has them. So they've been retconned in.

They're there in TOS Remastered, DS9 and Enterprise.

Mistakes get made. They are clearly mistakes based on the original article they are supposed to be emulating.
 
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