USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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They don't. The look SIMILAR because they cut similar profiles from that angle. But they have far more differences than they have commonalities.
On the other hand, I keep running into people whining about how Discovery ships don't show any sort of design lineage or common "design language", so the fact that the Walker class is a much older design than the Shepard is unlikely to be a coincidence. They're probably Starfleet's equivalent to the Mig-23 and -25: they look vaguely similar at first glance, but they're easy to tell apart.
So what? Casual watchers at air shows can't tell the difference between an F-14 and an F-15. That doesn't mean the F-14 is just an F-15 with skinnier wings.
I think we all know the answer to that question.
Or, you can just imagine that it always looked like whatever your preferred configuration is. If you like the updated version from DSC, then The Cage Enterprise always looked like that. If you prefer the version from The Cage, then just pretend that the DSC version looks like that in your head.Yep, which leads to the amazing idea that the Enterprise was refit, enlarged, then unrefit and shrunk between "The Cage" and "Where No Man..."
I’m not talking about that.
The discovery in this image is inaccurate to the show version, texture wise.
I'm still not nuts about the pylons, but that ugly lip on the shuttlebay drives me crazy. It's not like it matches up with the Discovery design. It's just so random -- a pointless change for change's sake.
I, for one, am really happy they kept the single-pronged deflector dish. That alone buys a measure of goodwill for the other tweaks. Between that and the glowy nacelle caps, I'm fairly content with the modernization.
Overall, a nice image.
I, for one, am really happy they kept the single-pronged deflector dish. That alone buys a measure of goodwill for the other tweaks. Between that and the glowy nacelle caps, I'm fairly content with the modernization.
Overall, a nice image.
Well yes obviously. Or, as I see it, in TOS it looks one way (or three, as time goes on) and in the DISCOverse it looks another.
Its just the thread has been so full of refit theories, and since the rescaling was revealed it's gotten even funnier.
After early in S2, why should we expect to see the 1701, with an eye to changing the look to match TOS?
My headcanon is and shall forever remain that the TMP Enterprise is the way the ship always looked and the refit was just a replacement of its old weapons, drive core and equipment.
Or, of course, the show could have kept it consistent, and then viewers wouldn't have to imagine something different from what their own eyes are showing them. (Having to do that kinda undercuts the point of it being a visual medium, after all...)
You're right, it's a much more reasonable expectation that nothing should change between TV episodes separated by over fifty years than to ask people to use their imagination a bit.
Now I know you have been on this board for a long while. So you making a provocative statement you know is impossible and will get a response is what... trolling? Who do I report a mod to for trolling?
Seriously, yes, many people can, and do use their imagination. But the loud few (and the main reason this thread is over 200 pages long), cannot, and do not accept that change can happen. Their version of Enterprise is The One True Enterprise. You cannot argue with such people (but it sure is fun trying
)A more reasonable expectation might have been that a new Star Trek series made over 50 years after the original shouldn't go back and revisit the setting of the original. They should have just left that time alone and moved on.
But prequel$ are ea$y. Ea$ie$t way to come with a $tory without trying hard. Also, I hear you can make a lot of money
I don't see how it's so different. Remember this comparison?
It's quite faithful. It's like the TOSprise with a typical eaves facelift. He squishes it, slaps on some wings, fins, etc, and sweeps the engines back a bit. There's not much to worry about here. Be thankful he didn't square off the nay-celles.
If the Discofans are complaining that it's too retro, or too "atomic age," then shouldn't the purist fans be comfortable with it, maybe be pleased?
It's quite faithful. It's like the TOSprise with a typical eaves facelift. He squishes it, slaps on some wings, fins, etc, and sweeps the engines back a bit. There's not much to worry about here. Be thankful he didn't square off the nay-celles.
If the Discofans are complaining that it's too retro, or too "atomic age," then shouldn't the purist fans be comfortable with it, maybe be pleased?
Indeed. If you want to revisit the original (even if just to bank on audience familiarity), be true to it. If you want to go in all kinds of new creative directions, do it in uncharted territory. The frustrating thing about DSC, as seems clear to all except its most ardent defenders, is that it wants to do both of those things at the same time, and then asks audiences to pretend they're not at odds.
Yeah, that's his style, in a nutshell. Ugh.
Don't put it past this show to come up with approaches that leave everyone unhappy!...
In the wider scheme of thing. It's all (at least in large part)about brand recognition. "Ten years before.. KIRK (flash) SPOCK (flash) and the ENTERPRISE!"
might as well add..
and KLINGONS! Remember them? And Sarek! That's Spock's Dad! Remember Spock? And HARRY MUDD! Remember Harry Mudd?! (shows clip "You're mad!" "No, I'mmmm MUDD") and the Mirror Universe! Remember the Mirror Universe? Everyone loves that place!
We Are StarFleet!
I hope Honesttrailers does a Discovery trailer at some point.
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