That's pretty wizard, dude.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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At the end of the day, I'm satisfied with Discovery's interpretation of the Enterprise/Connie, but I think if they left it untouched it would have been fine too.These are pics of the 11 footer before it received it's restoration inserted into the movies. I think it looks great. Picture credits goes to Nick Acosta.
I'm a total TOS guy, but have been completely fine with the "Discoprise" as a reimagining. I was happy they at *least* got it kind of close. I accpeted it as an update. But wow.... holy crap, these are *breathtaking.* These pics really might sway my mind on just how viable the exact original design still is..... Damn.
I really would love to see Star Trek Continues do a "cover" of The Wrath of Khan.... the one scene that they recorded was fantastic, and seeing this - I want to see the battle of the nebula with the TOS ship.... and a TOS Reliant!! Especially with the suggestion that its the "same old ship" and TWOK is a different timeline then TMP and never went through a refit....
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The ORIGINAL Enterprise does not. Various retouches and models BASED on the original have a fair amount of surface detail, including the additional panel lines, weapon emplacements and the occasional greeble to represent a component or two.
OTOH, the original 3-foot Enterprise model has none of that detail and the 11-foot model wasn't even completed on one side. Almost anything you could point to that would be a PASSABLE version of the original would itself be a retouched adaptation derivative from it. So what we're really talking about isn't the original model, but some sort of highly detailed, re-textured, incredibly faithful reproduction of it like they did in "In a Mirror Darkly."
And even that is too goofy and primitive for some. Because "reasons. "
It does NOW
Besides, my point is that people who aren't intimately familiar with the minutia of the TOS version's design except in the broadest possible strokes probably wouldn't notice or care about all the ways it's different, in much the same way people who aren't familiar with the details of an ISD never seem to notice the differences. Apparently, hardcore Star Wars fans not only notice the difference but have had incredibly bitter and angry flame wars over this issue; for nearly everyone else is a case of "Who the fuck cares?"
The Discovery version of the Enterprise is basically in the same category. They changed some surface details, added others, and changed the bridge and the color. People who haven't spend hundreds of hours staring at high-res CG models of the TOS ship on the internet probably won't have that level of familiarity and would only have known the ship from its blurry, washed-out TOS appearance. The "putting on your glasses" effect comes into play here as well.
Reliant, Grissom, Excelsior and the TMP Enterprise belong to the same period, and the "busyness" of Discovery's starship designs is largely consistent with them as it is with the NX-01 of a hundred years earlier. In this particular case, it's the actually the clean/smooth design of the TOS ship that's the outlier.
And just so we're clear about this: the "clean and smooth" design isn't any sort of well thoughout futuristic design choice by the production team. It's more a feature of them both lacking the budget to do anything more complex than that and also not actually knowing any better. This is why the Klingon D7 model was remade into the far busier and more detailed K'Tinga class in the TMP movie: it's essentially the same ship, dolled up to look more impressive in the post Space Odyssey era.
To be equally clear: no it hasn't. More recent iterations of the ship produced by both fans and spinoff producers have provided alot of that detail out of necessity, but the original ship had none of that detail. They simply didn't have any reason -- or the BUDGET -- to add it at the time. This is the whole reason why the TMP version of the ship is even a thing; if the TOS version was that detailed, they would have just brought the 11-foot model out of storage and given it a fresh coat of paint.
It's seriously not all that different. Apart from the redesign of the nacelle pylons, it's pretty damn close!Found this on Trekyard's facebook group.
Color corrected photo of the updated Enterprise.
The color makes a huge difference. If you painted the TOS version battleship grey and dropped it in low-light conditions, it would probably look a lot like this too.
From the game Star Trek: Legacy (2006). It's an ENT-era battleship.
Did they sink it?
It doesn't look anywhere near accurate to my eye. If that's the actual profile, though, it will lose points from me.
I always liked this as an ENT Era Battleship
Oh I like that..... It's got wings
Made me think of the 3 nacelle Enterprise D from the Generations finale. I actually liked that version of the Enterprise D.
Oh I like that..... It's got wings
Made me think of the 3 nacelle Enterprise D from the Generations finale. I actually liked that version of the Enterprise D.
I love the ENT/Birth of the Federation era and fans have put out some soild designs over the years.
I am not usually a fan of tri-nacelle designs but I do like this one.I always liked this as an ENT Era Battleship
It's so comically underpowered, it can't help but get sunk by anything beefier than a shuttlecraft armed with water balloons.
It doesn’t. The profile of the fan render in the trekyards video doesn’t even come close to matching up with the color corrected pic floating around here in the latest posts.
It’s not even close.
From what I’ve seen the shape of the secondary hull, engine pylons and connecting neck are pretty darn spot in to the tmp refit. In fact if you did a shadow box aside from the elongated hangar landing area it would be a match
The bottom of the primary hull pretty much matches the tos
The top is obviously up for debate
One can only hope.
That's the one. Before actually googling it I would've sworn there was a scene with them going through the roof of a train.
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This is a smiling face.
The Mona Lisa is better realised.
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Is this a mod or something? I don't recall EVER seeing this ship in Star Trek Legacy.
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