USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

[PixelMagic]

Modern designs tend to be very geometrical. Think the movie Iron Man suits. That is the quintessential "style" used today. Lots of flowing parabolic arcs/curves that meet at sharp defined edges and blend seamlessly. Look at the Shenzhou and then look at the Mark 6 Iron Man suit. You'll see what I mean.

 

[Jesse1066]

Its really not opinion man, its a set art style. It is also no used in modern sci-fi objects. Its just how it is, the current modern art styles do not use things like that. So things that do, hearken back to an era when they were in use. Like Car Fins.

I don't dispute that the Enterprise doesn't match current sci fi styles, but I haven't seen anything else from the '60s that looks anything like it. If the features of the Enterprise are quintessentially 1960s, where are the other ships that have them?

 

[PixelMagic]

I don't dispute that the Enterprise doesn't match current sci fi styles, but I haven't seen anything else from the '60s that looks anything like it. If the features of the Enterprise are quintessentially 1960s, where are the other ships that have them?

Flip this 180 degrees and you pretty much have the same curvature of the bottom of the TOS saucer.

The dome on the top of this has almost the same curvature of the B/C deck super structure of the Enterprise when viewed from the front.

 

[fireproof78]

Flip this 180 degrees and you pretty much have the same curvature of the bottom of the TOS saucer.

THANK YOU!!!!

Finally, someone helps me get it. I kind of see it now, but I still don't think TOS Enterprise dates as much as claimed.

As with most realities, it lies somewhere in the middle.

 

[Jesse1066]

Flip this 180 degrees and you pretty much have the same curvature of the bottom of the TOS saucer.

Well, the saucer naturally, but what about the deflector or the nacelles? Not to mention the sum of the parts, which is truly unique.
Edit: I genuinely didn't mean to move the goalposts, but I felt that the resemblance of the saucer to a flying saucer was a bit obvious.
Edit edit: I found some toys that have a little bit of that Star Trek feel to them, but I think they're from the fifties.

 

[cooleddie74]

That largest ship could pass for a Romulan scout ship or a shuttle.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, the saucer naturally, but what about the deflector or the nacelles? Not to mention the sum of the parts, which is truly unique.
Edit: I genuinely didn't mean to move the goalposts, but I felt that the resemblance of the saucer to a flying saucer was a bit obvious.
Edit edit: I found some toys that have a little bit of that Star Trek feel to them, but I think they're from the fifties.

I still don't feel the design continuity...

Guess I'm just a thick headed idiot...

 

[Mirror Mirror]

I don't dispute that the Enterprise doesn't match current sci fi styles, but I haven't seen anything else from the '60s that looks anything like it. If the features of the Enterprise are quintessentially 1960s, where are the other ships that have them?

Many of the shapes and styling that make it up can be seen, as you have been shown. The style itself has a name( Ok like 5 names) and it simply stands out. Your toys are a good example of that style. Yes, its most strongly tried to the 60's due to the space race, but as other have pointed out it started in the late 40's really.It was a post war style.

 

[Jesse1066]

Many of the shapes and styling that make it up can be seen, as you have been shown. The style itself has a name( Ok like 5 names) and it simply stands out. Your toys are a good example of that style. Yes, its most strongly tried to the 60's due to the space race, but as other have pointed out it started in the late 40's really.It was a post war style.

There are similar elements, but nothing quite so dated as those toys. No fins, wings, rocket flames, rivets, or bubble cockpits at least. Saucers aside, this is the closest thing to the Enterprise I've seen from older sci fi and it still isn't an exact style match. I'm just not convinced that the Enterprise is a space age/atomic age design through and through. Only that Jefferies borrowed some elements and created his own interpretation.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

There are similar elements, but nothing quite so dated as those toys. No fins, wings, rocket flames, rivets, or bubble cockpits at least. Saucers aside, this is the closest thing to the Enterprise I've seen from older sci fi and it still isn't an exact style match. I'm just not convinced that the Enterprise is a space age/atomic age design through and through. Only that Jefferies borrowed some elements and created his own interpretation.

Its a decade apart, the fins went out with the 50's but the other elements stayed. For someone who does design all the time or looks at it all the time its so very, very clear. It is that style, all his designs are. Which is not odd as it was The style of sci-fi at the time. Just as someone designing ships and such today would use modern stylings and likely not even think about it.

 

[Jesse1066]

Its a decade apart, the fins went out with the 50's but the other elements stayed. For someone who does design all the time or looks at it all the time its so very, very clear. It is that style, all his designs are. Which is not odd as it was The style of sci-fi at the time. Just as someone designing ships and such today would use modern stylings and likely not even think about it.

Well, as long as it looks good and fits the universe, I guess I don't care too much when it looks like it's from.

 

[fireproof78]

There are similar elements, but nothing quite so dated as those toys. No fins, wings, rocket flames, rivets, or bubble cockpits at least. Saucers aside, this is the closest thing to the Enterprise I've seen from older sci fi and it still isn't an exact style match. I'm just not convinced that the Enterprise is a space age/atomic age design through and through. Only that Jefferies borrowed some elements and created his own interpretation.

This. It doesn't feel as dated as other atomic age stylings.

 

[PixelMagic]

This. It doesn't feel as dated as other atomic age stylings.

I agree it’s not as dated as other stuff from that time. That phaser rifle though...

 

[CaptainMurdock]

If they made a Forbidden Planet show, I'd love to see those designs in it. Then again I wished Discovery would have went for a more 50's Forbidden Planet inspired look too. I think it would have been cool and fun.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Well, as long as it looks good and fits the universe, I guess I don't care too much when it looks like it's from.

Often its not an issue. A show should have a set look, and as long as styles do not clash, it works. The issue I had was the New design is in one style and the Dish is not in that style. So it stands out.

 

[fireproof78]

I agree it’s not as dated as other stuff from that time. That phaser rifle though...

Glad we didn't see it any more.

 

[Longinus]

Often its not an issue. A show should have a set look, and as long as styles do not clash, it works. The issue I had was the New design is in one style and the Dish is not in that style. So it stands out.

Sure. But that was a mistake done with the other ships. Though I think the engines are more of an issue than the dish.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Sure. But that was a mistake done with the other ships. Though I think the engines are more of an issue than the dish.

No, that dis no longer fit for a redesign when the NX was made. The other ships all fit. This dish is the odd ball.

 

[Longinus]

No, that dis no longer fit for a redesign when the NX was made. The other ships all fit. This dish is the odd ball.

Nope. And NX is a century earlier, so it hardly matters. Styles will change pretty much completely in hundred years.

 

[Longinus]

Modern designs tend to be very geometrical. Think the movie Iron Man suits. That is the quintessential "style" used today. Lots of flowing parabolic arcs/curves that meet at sharp defined edges and blend seamlessly. Look at the Shenzhou and then look at the Mark 6 Iron Man suit. You'll see what I mean.

And that look will soon look dated too. As much as I like Shenzhou, its engines alredy look painfully era specific. They're sharp and angular and try to look cool too desperately.