I really don't think that the illustrator(s) got the perspective right on that drawing. It's always bothered me. The saucer looks like it's going in a different direction from the rest of the ship.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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The TOS Enterprise has somewhat more recognition in the general public because of these:
The original Enterprise might be THE most iconic (fictional) starship ever.
Even more than the Millenium Falcon. Yes - more people have seen Star Wars - but I think the original E is as much part of pop-culture as Sherlock Holmes or Robin Hood. Everybody can identify it, even if they don't know the specifics (wheras I think the Millenium Falcon is more a thing for people who have actually watched the movies).
In this regard - the TMP refit is a very good version of the iconic design. As is in my opinion the JJprise. In fact, most people probably wouldn't even be able to differentiate between these.
I'm not as big a fan of the Enterprise-D - don't get me wrong, I really like the design, but I don't love it as much as the original - But the one thing the Ent-D did that was outstanding is - it is it's OWN design. It has a very clear identity on it's own, that is of course inspired by the original (like the Voyager or the NX-01) - but it clearly is it's very own, unique starship. Wheras the TMP refit and the JJprise are just "versions" of the same design. At least that's how I see it.
I might as well jump in:
1. Refit Enterprise
2. TOS Enterprise
3. Enterprise-D
4. JJ Enterprise
5. Enterprise-E (I don't dislike it, but I like it less as time passes)
Unranked: Disco Enterprise (I want to see more of it before I rank it).
The Enterprise-A is basically the Refit Enterprise, except for the bridge, and with some TNG sets. So listing it is redundant. And the rest are the rest.
1. Refit Enterprise
2. TOS Enterprise
3. Enterprise-D
4. JJ Enterprise
5. Enterprise-E (I don't dislike it, but I like it less as time passes)
Unranked: Disco Enterprise (I want to see more of it before I rank it).
The Enterprise-A is basically the Refit Enterprise, except for the bridge, and with some TNG sets. So listing it is redundant. And the rest are the rest.
yes. probert approached the design of the enterprise-D with a coherent, intentional ethic that shifted the design from simple geometric shapes to compound ovals and more complicated curves. i think that's why it's a truly great design -- probert completely rethought his approach to the enterprise. that's also what ryan church did and why the kelvin enterprise is so distinct (though i know you disagree there).
unfortunately, the discovery enterprise is less distinct, less successful because it's just not a fresh design. it's a modification of jefferies' classic enteprise. it pulls from the original, the refit, even the enterprise-B so it doesn't really have an identity of its own.
oh totally and i almost noted in my reply. it was a choice. for my money, not a good one, but it was deliberate.
It never can have its own identity.
I may be in the minority on this but I prefer the TFF Enterprise-A bridge to the one seen in TUC. Star Trek V may be the vastly inferior film but the Enterprise-A in that movie was a sleek and beautiful vessel right down to the bridge layout.
The basic layout was the same, right? Only the lightning was different (more bright in TFF, darker with more contrast in TUC).
But I honestly think - this is IMO the best Star Trek bridge ever. There is a reason they re-dressed it for every other ship bridge (from the Prometheus to the Equinox) - it's just a damn fine layout. It got the best looks of them all (functional, many stations, stylish design) - but it also has the perfect size. think the bridges from the Ent-E to the JJprise to the Discovery are all a bit too big - the actors disappear in it. Wheras on the Ent-A bridge - the Captain can stand in the middle of the bridge, and the background is perfectly framed - with many consols and extras, but not too much floor and ceiling like on these bigger bridge sets.
I have to say though, that I personally prefer the TUC-version visually (it just looks a bit more distinct). But even the TFF IMO trumps every other Trek bridge.
Agreed. I also think it's the bridge version that best represents a modernisation of the original. I love TWOK's, but it's a completely different thing.
Other than the lighting, painting and touchscreens, was there any difference between the two bridges?
The turbo lifts have moved even farther apart, almost to opposite sides (neither will really fit in the shape at the top of the Enterprise model any longer, but that’s a whole different issue).
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The lighting and painting make a HUUUGE difference.
design and layout wise, it's great. but i think the TUC version has it beat in terms of lighting (pre-abrams spotlights) and decoration (the red leather paneling and scratched metallic surfaces). the TNG-inspired TFF bridge is a little too clean and beige for the rough and tumble TOS era, in my opinion.
1. NCC-1701
2. NCC-1701-A
3. NCC-1701 (JJ)
4. NCC-1701 (DISCO)
5. NCC-1701-B
6. NX-01
7. NCC-1701-E
8. NCC-1701-C
9. NCC-1701-D
10. NCC-1701-J
2. NCC-1701-A
3. NCC-1701 (JJ)
4. NCC-1701 (DISCO)
5. NCC-1701-B
6. NX-01
7. NCC-1701-E
8. NCC-1701-C
9. NCC-1701-D
10. NCC-1701-J
1. XCV-330
2. NCC-1701 refit
3: NCC-1701-A
4 .NCC-1701 TOS
5: NX01
6: NCC-1701-J
6: NCC-1701 Kelvin-Verse (tied with NCC-1701 A Kelvinverse)
8. NCC-1701-B
9. NCC-1701-E
10: NCC-1701-D
11. NCC-1701-C
Honorable mentions to OV-101,and the CVN-65 which doesn't fly. Both of them made it into a Star Trek movies, one as a painting, one as a wessel)
2. NCC-1701 refit
3: NCC-1701-A
4 .NCC-1701 TOS
5: NX01
6: NCC-1701-J
6: NCC-1701 Kelvin-Verse (tied with NCC-1701 A Kelvinverse)
8. NCC-1701-B
9. NCC-1701-E
10: NCC-1701-D
11. NCC-1701-C
Honorable mentions to OV-101,and the CVN-65 which doesn't fly. Both of them made it into a Star Trek movies, one as a painting, one as a wessel)
The Prometheus and Equinox bridges were actually redressed from the Excelsior bridge from "Flashback," which was rebuilt from scratch and slightly smaller than the original. The original TFF/TUC bridge was chopped up and reused. The very back part from the Excelsior bridge and some of the ceiling were used by DS9 for guest bridges and eventually the Defiant's mess hall and sickbay. The TMP doorframes and most of the computer consoles were used on the Enterprise E bridge in the TNG films.
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