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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Their cloak doesn't seem to work like the Romulan and Klingon cloaks though. If you look carefully the hull panelling is changing colour or something, it isn't being surrounded by an invisibility field like we've seen Klingon/Romulan cloaks do, or even Federation cloaks in TNG (The Pegasus)

It looks like a completely different tech. It looks more like what the Helicarrier does in Marvel films, or James Bond's car in 'Die Another Day'
Or it's no different to the various transporter effects we've seen over the years, which indicate exactly the same technology.
 
Umm, what S31 cloak? We haven't seen the ship go invisible, now have we?

We know the ship can pretend to be a rock. We also get a scene where parts of the surface of the ship sort of glimmer. Neither of those counts as invisibility. So likening this to the diversity of transporter effects would be like stating that Odo's morphing is a transporter effect because it involves glimmer. There's no functional similarity there.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Design cycles? We know the 2260s will look like the 1960s. :)

But only because the scripts were handed to people in the 1960s and they were told to do "this". If they were handed to people in the 1930s it would have looked like Buck Rogers. When they were handed to people in the 1980s they looked like TNG.
 
Umm, what S31 cloak? We haven't seen the ship go invisible, now have we?

We know the ship can pretend to be a rock. We also get a scene where parts of the surface of the ship sort of glimmer. Neither of those counts as invisibility. So likening this to the diversity of transporter effects would be like stating that Odo's morphing is a transporter effect because it involves glimmer. There's no functional similarity there.

Timo Saloniemi
You have a point. The S31 ship having an invisibility cloak is speculation.
 
It has a Camouflage Device.
Some kinda of Light Bending Effect?
So if any ship were to actually point their sensors at it, it would most likely show up as a blip of some sort.
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It has a Camouflage Device.
Some kinda of Light Bending Effect?
So if any ship were to actually point their sensors at it, it would most likely show up as a blip of some sort.
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It is probably much easier to fool the sensors to think that a ship is a rock than to hide the ship completely .
 
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The main problem with the Abramsprise is that its proportions are all wrong.
Right, it's cartoonish.

It’s like it was designed by three different people; one guy was given the saucer to design (and just shamelessly copied 90% of the TMP saucer), one guy was given the secondary hull, and one guy was given the nacelles and pylons.

Church's concept art was much more cohesive. They killed the saucer swooshes, so yeah, it doesn't fit with the rest of the design.
 
It is probably much easier to fool the sensors to think that a ship is a rock than to hide the ship completely .
And it makes sense. They'd already encountered Romulan camouflage tech a couple of times before the romulan war, no telling how many times they saw it after that.
 
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The JJPrise is the first* cohesive, artistically inspired version of the Enterprise since Probert.
You have terrible taste. There's nothing cohesive about it. It is unbalanced combination of overdesigned shapes that do not fit together, made by a person who was clinically allergic to straight lines. The only good thing about it is the hull texture.
 
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But only because the scripts were handed to people in the 1960s and they were told to do "this". If they were handed to people in the 1930s it would have looked like Buck Rogers. When they were handed to people in the 1980s they looked like TNG.

Exactly my point, actually. But even in the real world, some fashions make comebacks. I don't think it's particularily unrealistic to say that in 250 years starships will look like they were designed in the 60s. The problem isn't realism, but audience perception.
 
Exactly my point, actually. But even in the real world, some fashions make comebacks. I don't think it's particularily unrealistic to say that in 250 years starships will look like they were designed in the 60s. The problem isn't realism, but audience perception.

Hmm. what was all the rage 250 years ago. Laquered wigs? Knee hosiery?
 
Wasn't it the first version of the Enterprise since Probert?

Enterprise-D designer: Andrew Probert
Enterprise-C designer: Andrew Probert (wall hanging, concept art), Rick Sternbach ("Yesterday's Enterprise" Enterprise-C)
Enterprise-B designer: Bill George (U.S.S. Excelsior), modifications by John Eaves
Enterprise-E designer: John Eaves
Enterprise NX-01 designer: Doug Drexler, based on Akira class starship designed by Alex Jaeger
Enterprise nuTrek designer: Ryan Church
 
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The JJPrise is the first* cohesive, artistically inspired version of the Enterprise since Probert.

*And, thus far, the last.

You have terrible taste. There's nothing cohesive about it. It is unbalanced combination of overdesigned shapes that do not fit together made by a person who was clinically allergic to straight lines. The only good thing about it is the hull texture.

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Enterprise-D designer: Andrew Probert
Enterprise-C designer: Andrew Probert (wall hanging, concept art), Rick Sternbach ("Yesterday's Enterprise" Enterprise-C)
Enterprise-E designer: John Eaves
Enterprise NX-01 designer: Doug Drexler, based on Akira class starship designed by Alex Jaeger
Enterprise nuTrek designer: Ryan Church
And all of these other designs are better than Church's. Yes, even the Sovereign.
 
Enterprise-D designer: Andrew Probert
Enterprise-C designer: Andrew Probert (wall hanging, concept art), Rick Sternbach ("Yesterday's Enterprise" Enterprise-C)
Enterprise-B designer: Bill George (U.S.S. Excelsior), modifications by John Eaves
Enterprise-E designer: John Eaves
Enterprise NX-01 designer: Doug Drexler, based on Akira class starship designed by Alex Jaeger
Enterprise nuTrek designer: Ryan Church
I'll take Church on that list, thank you. I do not care for the other designs, aside for the Excelsior.
 
And all of these other designs are better than Church's. Yes, even the Sovereign.

I'll take Church on that list, thank you. I do not care for the other designs, aside for the Excelsior.

Which only goes to show that there's zero consensus with stuff like this. I myself think the two greatest Enterprise designs ever made are the Enterprise-D and the refit TMP Enterprise, both designed by Probert.

But as far as the public consciousness goes? Clearly, the hands-down winner is the TOS Enterprise. People who don't even care about Star Trek will recognize that ship anywhere, and its design will far outlast anything else that has come after it.
 
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