I've seen DIS and DSC used more often.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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I've seen DIS and DSC used more often.
Then i will use all 3 STD/DIS/DSC just to be very clear for everyone
or is STD not allowed? for some unknown reason?
or is STD not allowed? for some unknown reason?
I never said it wasn't. You can use what ever you wish.
I was just curious so I asked. I know some (not all) people use it as an insult to the show.
oh, now i get it. Had to google it. Well that is kinda butt hurt reaction on both sides. Since WHO and other English speaking nations use STI.
here in the dutch countries it is SOA
here in the dutch countries it is SOA
Again, we first saw the original designs for those three props in "The Cage" - and then 12/13 years later (in Universe) in TOS. ST: D takes place 2 to 3 years after the events of "The Cage" - so these new props IMO could very well fit as something issued 2-3 years later and they contain more than enough cues to place then as in-between variants.
Again, as long as the NCC 1701 they chose to show looks like something 'in between' "The Cage" 1701 and "The Man Trap" (the first aired TOS episode - although technically it would be "Where No Man Has Gone Before" - which used the same 1701 model as "The Cage"; that would satisfy me.
If it's too radical a change when/if ever shown on ST: D I don't think it would be all that reconcilable that they do such a radical change and then 10 years or so later decide to suddenly regress the design on the 'next' refit - but that's me
Again, we first saw the original designs for those three props in "The Cage" - and then 12/13 years later (in Universe) in TOS. ST: D takes place 2 to 3 years after the events of "The Cage" - so these new props IMO could very well fit as something issued 2-3 years later and they contain more than enough cues to place then as in-between variants.
Again, as long as the NCC 1701 they chose to show looks like something 'in between' "The Cage" 1701 and "The Man Trap" (the first aired TOS episode - although technically it would be "Where No Man Has Gone Before" - which used the same 1701 model as "The Cage"; that would satisfy me.
If it's too radical a change when/if ever shown on ST: D I don't think it would be all that reconcilable that they do such a radical change and then 10 years or so later decide to suddenly regress the design on the 'next' refit - but that's me
Everything they've shown so far, ships, Klingons, Klingons ships, the gear, isn't reconcilable at all with TOS.
Again, given those particular ship classes were never seen or mentioned previously, I would disagree. I would only say they don't look anything like the Starship/Constitution class. There were plenty of other ships and ship types mentioned they never showed on the screen in the TOS era.
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If it's too radical a change when/if ever shown on ST: D I don't think it would be all that reconcilable that they do such a radical change and then 10 years or so later decide to suddenly regress the design on the 'next' refit - but that's me
And if this version of Trek ever moves ten years into the future, everything will look more different still. Reboot.
The Klingon ships, if ancient and older than TOS by hundreds of years, could definitely be reconcilable. The one ship we see lifting off is definitely a D7 forerunner.
As for the Starfleet gear, that is more than a close bridge between "The Cage" and TOS for evolution.
Not exactly true - Landru in TOS "Return of the Archons" was a hologram; as was Losira at the end of TOS - "That Which Survives". Also in TAS they did show the 1701 had a working Holodeck. We never saw it used routinely for communications in the TOS era; but Starfleet had access to holographic tech in the era.
Yes, they did. The view panels (often with blinking lights; but they also had graphics display capability - even if they were colored plastic overlays in the 1960ies
) were touchscreens in TOS (and yes I'm being serious, there were times you saw people touching them when being asked for a reading).I agree. If they show the ole girl she'll be updated.
The Shenzhou has a TNG-style atmospheric forcefield and Nemesis-style forcefields to seal hull breaches, ten years before TOS. In TOS, the shuttlebay had to pressurise after a shuttle landed. 15 years later in Wrath of Khan, they had isolation doors to seal off breaches.
It's a reboot based on the lore of TOS, with modern looks and new technology which would totally alter the outcomes of several TOS episodes and movies if they had it.
There's nothing wrong with isolation bulkheads sealing off damaged sections of the ship, particularly if there's a danger of massive venting to space if said forcefield fails. It's called a redundancy, and quite frankly I'd rather have those on a starship than not.
As for the shuttle bay pressurizing: that could be a standard practice when ships pass through the force field. Surely there's some loss of atmospheric gasses when those fields are pierced. The ship certainly had force fields (e.g. brig).
Or, maybe it means the Enterprise is an older ship than Discovery and Shenzhou, and didn't have those available (they were to be installed on Tuesday, at night).
I'm waiting for the show to start before committing to it (for they may explain any number of ways), but it really looks like a huge continuity issue beyond what "visual upgrade" would explain, to me.
There's no scenes where force fields would change anything with the plot, and it's dubious at best whether it would change anything at all.
I'm rewatching TOS right now, and there have been numerous times right from the start where the crew just waves their hands above the controls to get something to happen. That goes right past touch screens into a gesture-based interface.
I'm rewatching TOS right now, and there have been numerous times right from the start where the crew just waves their hands above the controls to get something to happen. That goes right past touch screens into a gesture-based interface.
I'm not sure if we are going to see the Enterprise, but I'm rather sure the 1701 is going to be name dropped. But I wouldn't mind the Big E showing up one day.
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