USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by EJD1984, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. Longinus

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    Connie change is more like recasting Pine as Kirk. Now, what happened to the Klingons and their ships, that's more in the female Kirk territory (except without the benefit of even being somewhat socially progressive.)

    And, yes, you absolutely can write female characters same way you write male characters. Get than gender essentialist bullshit out of here.

    (And it was Mirror Mirror who brought this up. And this argument continues because some people cannot accept that the difference between reboot and reimagining is pretty much based on subjective assessments.)
     
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    I don't think the 60's look is coming back. Seeing Enterprise on screen was a pretty definitive visual statement.
     
  3. Longinus

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  4. Gepard

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    "Turnabout Intruder" would be pretty hard to justify with a female Kirk, too. Unless you Rule 63'ed Lester too, but then his motivation for body swapping would have to be different.
     
  5. Longinus

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    That has nothing to do with the events themselves. (Though it would have been pretty progressive.) It is same like saying people in the 60's or 80's could not have designed the Klingons like the DIS folks did.
     
  6. Mirror Mirror

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    We are seeing the TOS connie.
    Sigh, more goalpost moving and refusal to address the changes pointed out. You have nothing and its a wate of time to try and reason with you over your flawed detail.
     
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    It absolutely does, especially with the Kirk example. A good chunk of Kirk's victories were predicated on him resolving things in masculine fashion. If you changed his gender, you would be changing the way events played out and therefore changing said events.
     
  8. Longinus

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    Pray tell, what does 'masculine fashion' mean and why no woman can behave in such a fashion?
     
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    Longinus needs a team

     
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  11. DigificWriter

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    "Punch first and ask questions later".
     
  12. Longinus

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    And a woman cannot do this why?

    (Not that I'd characterise Kirk that way to begin with.)
     
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  13. PixelMagic

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    Because women always carefully and logically consider their course of action instead of making impulse decisions. :whistle:
     
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  14. DigificWriter

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    They can; most don't, though, because their brains are not "wired" that way.
     
  15. F. King Daniel

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    Again, what about David? If we're genderswapping, Kirk's pregnant with David during the five-year mission. And that makes a big difference.
     
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    Is It me, or has this thread gone off topic?
     
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    So, basically TrekBBS.
    Any thread over 100 pages long is like going to Far Lands in Minecraft. You could do it, bit results are unpredictable :D
     
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    Ripley was not written the way she was because the writers "wrote her like a man"; she was written the way she was because of the role she was intended to fill, which was that of "military hard-ass".
     
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    Military hard ass? Civilian space trucker...
     
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    And host of...

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    ..Ripley's Believe It Or Not.

    YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
     
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