I'm going to guess that the producers of DSC have no clue what UESPA is.
It was pronouced "you-spah" in the one TOS episode it was mentioned in.
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I'm going to guess that the producers of DSC have no clue what UESPA is.
It was pronouced "you-spah" in the one TOS episode it was mentioned in.
Yes, I was suggesting a slight change to include the E sound.
Although I now prefer Bones suggestion over mine, maybe with a slight Spanish infection.
I shutter to think what else about Star Trek they might be clueless about.
Hopefully they retain the services of someone who is more familiar with the product they intend to produce.
I personally do not want more of the same. I'd be happy if they completely rebooted Star Trek with this show.
And no offense, but just because they may not have heard of an incredibly obscure term used once in one TOS episode, that should not be an excuse to assume they're a bunch of idiots. That kind of thinking is what gives Trekkies a bad name. My ex-wife is a huge Star Trek fan, and I'm pretty sure she's never heard of UESPA either.
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DSC should not in any way use UESPA, for one simple reason:
It sounds cheesy.
Like most of the other phrases TOS used to use (before they decided on Starfleet), UESPA sounds like something out of a trashy pulp novel. That and the other ones like "Space Command", "Star Service", "Space Central", "Command Base", etc. Get those the hell out of the writer's room, stat.
At least "Starfleet" is short and to the point. And is not cheesy in any way.
It sounds cheesy.
Like most of the other phrases TOS used to use (before they decided on Starfleet), UESPA sounds like something out of a trashy pulp novel. That and the other ones like "Space Command", "Star Service", "Space Central", "Command Base", etc. Get those the hell out of the writer's room, stat.
At least "Starfleet" is short and to the point. And is not cheesy in any way.
I have no problem with those being used, instead on just Starfleet. It depend on how simplistic you want the show to be, I personally wouldn't mind some complexity.
Starfleet came before UESPA.
I'm not the one who brought up the producers being without clue.
Hopefully they will use Trek's previously established universe in the new show, and not just employ the title and a select few buzz words.
I don't think so. Starfleet pops up in the latter half of Season One.(Court Martial) UESPA is from early in Season One. (Charlie X)
Tenacity might be referring to Enterprise.
But even then, the UESPA existed in Enterpise, although it isn't seen on screen until season 4.
In that case, Voyager established UESPA existed in the 21st century. UESPA came first no matter how you slice it.
In universe maybe, but out here IRL it's not.
I said that they had no clue about UESPA. I didn't say that they had no clue in general. You were the one that made that assumption.
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You're right. I was posting on the run
In my head, 'Space Central' is a colloquialism for the complex that houses Starfleet Command, much like 'Capitol Hill.'
Yep. It was the first use of the Delta logo (2067), long before Starfleet existed. The Delta had been amalgamated with the United Nations emblem.
We also got a brief mention of UESPA in Enterprise season four. The Delta was incorporated as part of the Starfleet Command emblem:
In TOS the UESPA was the primary operating authority of the five year mission which the Enterprise undertook, as Kirk explained to John Christopher in the episode "Tomorrow is Yesterday". This may explain why the Enterprise uses the UESPA delta, whereas we see other ships of that era do not. Perhaps it is also a why the Discovery uses the delta. It's a Starfleet ship but under the authority of UESPA.
Maybe UESPA is the earth-based authority for Starfleet ships run primarily by humans, and the Vulcans had a similar authority for Starfleet ships run by Vulcans such as Intrepid. Each race that had a starship in Starfleet would have analagous commands. However the ultimate authority was Starfleet.
Actually, it's "espacio"
Those all sound like something out of a Gerry Anderson production. Which is exactly why they should be used.
Maybe the UESPA is the United Earth authority for United Earth controled starships (among other things).
As part of Earth's membership in the Federation some of these Human starships are sent to work on Federation projects and activities. They wouldn't all be military ships, but also survey, tankers, cargo, colony ships, etc..
While deployed, the starships from various Federation species work collectively under Starfleet Command. Starfleet would use these ships, and reassign crewmembers between these ships, as it saw best.
Each Federation species that had starships in Starfleet would have a organization similar to the UESPA "back home."The Vulcans had such a organization that was the home authority for the Intrepid.
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