TWOK cut scenes excerpts...

[ScatmanRescueMe]

^^I agree, they should have left in that little bit.

It, like the testing for air in the cargo-carrier before taking off their helmets, would have made the Feds seem a little less careless.

For all we know Khan, being a genius, may have figured a way to foil a quick medical scan to preserve the trap he was laying for Kirk. But having McCoy at least shown scaning them makes it seem he was doing his job.

Little stuff they cut like that can usually be left in, only adding mere seconds to the running time.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^Yeah...they didn't think about how we'd all take it apart.

 

[Data Holmes]

^Yeah...they didn't think about how we'd all take it apart.

That was fine then, but they don't have any excuse anymore.

 

[guardian]

^Well, actually the point is--they had things explained in 1982, but in the effort to trim the movie by a couple of minutes--they cut them.

I think a lot of folks assumed they just had never addressed those points.

 

[guardian]

Part four, including the only major re-shoot of the film.....................................

The Kirk/David fight as originally scripted and filmed..............


124 INT. ROCKY CAVERN - REGULA 124

The BEAM SOUND screeches, then settles into its comfort-
able mode as the FIVE FIGURES FLUCTUATE, FADE, then
APPEAR. They look around in wonder and relief.

SAAVIK
Admiral --

She indicates something O.S. They cross as CAMERA
reveals a cave wall stacked with technical materials
and crowned by a LARGE PROJECTILE, a giant version
of the model we saw earlier. They stare. (N.B. FEATURE
GENESIS ARMING CONTROL BOX.)

BONES
Genesis, I presume.

They walk by a group of crates. It all happens very
fast: David leaps out and tackles Kirk, throwing him to
the ground and landing atop him, a knife at his throat.

At the same time, Bones and Saavik reach for their
phasers, but Jedda, already armed, steps out. He has
them covered and helpless.

125 ANGLE FAVORING DAVID 125

DAVID
{ You're the sonavabitch who
committed mass murder up there.

He raises the knife --

KIRK
I'm Admiral Kirk...

DAVID
We were still there, you dumb
bastard! We could hear the screams
all the way to the transporter room --

Again he raises the knife --

KIRK
Where's Dr. Marcus --

DAVID
I'm Doctor Marcus!

Carol reaches the tunnel entrance to the cave --

CAROL
David --

DAVID
Mother, go back!

Carol sees Kirk --

CAROL
Jim --

DAVID
Go back. I'm going to kill him.

CAROL
(takes a breath)
You do that and you'll have murdered
your father.

All react. David and Kirk, facing each other, are
turned to stone. Bones, Jedda and Chekov turn to look
at Carol, wondering. Terrell very casually takes the
phaser from Jedda.

126 NEW ANGLE (FORMERLY SCENE 134) 126

TERRELL
(cool)
I'll hold onto this.

But Kirk and Carol ignore them and walk towards each
other. There are tears in Carol's eyes. She reaches
up, trying to smile and touches his hair --

CAROL
You've got a little grey --

She can't. Kirk takes her and holds her tightly, look-
ing at David, over her shoulder. He stands there,
stunned, looking back.

KIRK
Carol. Is that true?

She nods --

KIRK
(continuing)
Why didn't you tell me?

DAVID
She's making it up! My father was
Professor -- }

CAROL
David, you're just making this
harder --

TERRELL
I'm afraid it's even harder than you
think, Doctor.

He and Chekov have their phasers trained on them.

In the reshoot they reused/reshot some of the cut lines: "where's Dr Marcus?", "I'm Dr Marcus!" etc.
Also even before the original version was filmed they re-wrote the line, "My father was a professor!" to the less corny, "Mother, he killed everyone we left behind !"

Great McCoy scene cut because of the earlier altered/reshot scene.......



CAROL
I don't understand.
Who's responsible for all this?
Who is Khan?

KIRK
It's a long story.

DAVID
We appear to have plenty of time.

BONES
(dry)
{ You and your father can catch up on
things.

DAVID
(bitter)
My father. I hope you realize
another man has just been killed
because of...

BONES
Because of you, son. You shouldn't
have tried to rush someone holding
a primed phaser. Anyway it isn't
one man dead, it's two, in case
you've lost count.

David has been effectively spiked. Long silence. }

KIRK
Do you have anything to eat? I
don't know about anyone else, but
I'm starved.

BONES
How can you think of food at a time
like this?

 

[trevanian]

And I know they cut the line about Prometheus because they felt the audience would go 'who is Prometheus'

Never give the audience has any credit for previous knowledge.

Well, this is the director/screenwriter who titled a Star Trek movie with a Shakespearean quote (twice!) that very few of the movie-going public were likely to identify or understand immediately. Also, The Wrath of Khan is a movie that contains references, oblique and otherwise, to King Lear, Moby-Dick, and A Tale of Two Cities, so I doubt seriously whether a single reference to Prometheus would have been discounted for any perceived cultural ignorance on the part of the audience.

That HAS to be Bennett cutting the Prometheus reference.

It is like the producer on DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER objecting to Blofeld talking to Bond about Le Rochefoucald. The producer sez, what is this with the Roquefort dressing, get it out of here! But the director and screenwriter conspired to keep it in, the scene was covered in only a single take.

 

[guardian]

Part five of six.......................
More cuts due the altering of the previous revalation scene.......


159 INT. GENESIS CAVE PLATFORM 159

Kirk and the others eat fruit from the huge (matte)
forest beyond. Chekov has been moved to join them.

159A ANGLE FAVORING DAVID AND SAAVIK 159A

who watches him.

DAVID
{ What are you looking at?

SAAVIK
The Admiral's son.

DAVID
Don't you believe it.

SAAVIK
Oh, I believe it.

She almost smiles. David returns her stare and it
throws her.

SAAVIK
(continuing)
What are you looking at?

DAVID
(confused)
I don't know.

159B INT. GENESIS CAVE - WIDER ANGLE 159B

Saavik rises, paces. Kirk puts down his food.

KIRK
Now that's what I call a meal.

BONES
It's like the Garden of Eden...

CAROL
Only here, every apple comes from
the Tree of Knowledge. }

Kirk watches Saavik.

KIRK
What's on your mind, Lieutenant?

SAAVIK
The Kobayashi Maru, sir.

DAVID
{ The what?

BONES
The no-win scenario -- and with
what philosophy a commander faces
defeat. )

KIRK
Are you asking me if we are playing
out that scenario now, Lieutenant?

SAAVIK
On the test, sir, will you tell me
what you did? I'd really like to
know.

Kirk looks at Bones, who smiles --

BONES
Lieutenant, you are looking at the
only Starfleet cadet who ever beat
the no-win scenario --


McCoy works on wounded Chekov................


SPOCK
What's sauce for the goose, Mr.
Saavik. The odds will be even.

166 VARIOUS CORRIDORS, ENTERPRISE 166

As the lights change, the CREW runs to their stations.

166A EXT. SPACE 166A

ENTERPRISE STARTS MOVING.

167 INT. HOSPITAL 167

Carol, David and Bones react to the light change and
{ the sirens -- Bones works on Chekov...

DAVID
I'm going up there.

BONES
You'll be in the way, Dr. Marcus...
best stay here. }

Carol and David are civilians on a battleship.


Second scene in sickbay cut..............
Chekov wants to go to the bridge and David heads for the bridge..........


178 INT. ENTERPRISE HOSPITAL 178

The ship reverberates with the near miss. Chekov wakes
up, looks wildly about --

BONES
Take it easy --

CHEKOV
But I must --

BONES
Listen to me, Pavel; you haven't
the strength or the equilibrium --

CHEKOV
But --

As they talk, David, unnoticed, leaves the area. The
Enterprise is buffeted again --

CAROL
Dr. McCoy, I can't just sit here.
Tell me what I can do.

BONES
(grim)
You can help get my surgery squared
away. I'm expecting customers.

She whitens in fear. ANOTHER SHOT reverberates.



The baby and the torpedo scene................. creepy





Painfully, with one good arm, he starts arming the
Genesis console.

213A INT. RELIANT TRANSPORTER ROOM 213A

There sits the Genesis torpedo: lights start blinking
in response. As we watch, the CHILD we met on Ceti Alpha
walks to the torpedo and smiles at the lights.

 

[guardian]

By the way..........


Where can I find the photo of the child from TWOK??

Thanks a lot.

 

[Maurice]

By the way..........
Where can I find the photo of the child from TWOK??

​

I posted more photos in THIS old thread.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^That's a creepy shot...

 

[Tyberius]

I wish the Romulan heritage scene had remained in the film, too... but I hate their use of the word "admixture" in the script. I don't consider myself stupid, but I had never heard of that word until I read it in the script excerpts in this thread. I've watched this scene before, and until reading this thread, I had wondered why Nimoy chose to pronounce "odd mixture" in such an odd way.

Marshmellon.

 

[Data Holmes]

^That's a creepy shot...

I think that was the point.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^That's a creepy shot...

I think that was the point.

Yeah...it probably would've driven the movie up to an R rating...

 

[Data Holmes]

^That's a creepy shot...

I think that was the point.

Yeah...it probably would've driven the movie up to an R rating...

I don't think that's a bad thing. Trek could use some ballz.

 

[guardian]

The 'creepy shot' of the kid would have given the film an 'R' ??

Or the simple fact that that a child dies OFF-SCREEN would push the film up to an 'R'

Nonsense.

It had nothing to do with the rating--the fact is the 3 kid scenes (the window, the cargo interior and in the transporter room) would have added a minute or two to the run time and would have made an already downer (death of Spock, Peter, Terrell etc) movie even more so.

 

[Data Holmes]

The 'creepy shot' of the kid would have given the film an 'R' ??

Or the simple fact that that a child dies OFF-SCREEN would push the film up to an 'R'

Nonsense.

It had nothing to do with the rating--the fact is the 3 kid scenes (the window, the cargo interior and in the transporter room) would have added a minute or two to the run time and would have made an already downer (death of Spock, Peter, Terrell etc) movie even more so.

I am so sick of the slavish chant of "runtime". Nothing has ever fucked movies more than "edited for Runtime".

 

[guardian]

Part six of six..................................
The full funeral with dialogue after the firing as well

KIRK
(continuing)
And yet, in the midst of our sorrow
it should be noted that this death
takes place in the shadow of new
life, the sunrise of a new world,
a world that our beloved comrade
gave his own life to protect and
nourish. He did not feel that
sacrifice a vain or empty one --
and we will not debate his profound
wisdom, in these proceedings. Of
my friend, I can only say this, that
of all the souls I have encountered
in my travels, his was the most --
(he falters)
-- human.

He tries to go on, but catches Bones' face: Bones is
streaming tears. Kirk can't go on.

KIRK
(continuing)
{ Lieutenant Saavik.

240 OMITTED 240

241 ANGLE - THE GROUP 241

Saavik steps forward.

SAAVIK
We commend the soul of our brother
departed. We love we commit his
body to the depths of space. }

SULU
Honors -- hup!

All Starfleet personnel salute. Scotty begins to PIPE,
an odd blare which mellows into Amazing Grace. Kirk
nods a signal.

242 THE CAPSULE 242

A gleaming black projectile is carried by pallbearers
into the launching chamber, which locks behind it. At
a hand signal from a TORPEDOMAN, the projectile is fired.
NOISE.

243 EXT. SPACE 243

Spock's remains seen on their way to the new world.
The capsule grows too small to SEE. The bagpipes STOP.

244 INT. TORPEDO ROOM 244

SULU
( Return -- hup!

The salute drop.

KIRK
Lieutenant.

She steps to him and they exchange salutes --

KIRK
(continuing; very
quietly)
After you dismiss the company, you
will take the watch. Set course
for Ceti Alpha V and we'll pick up
survivors.

SAAVIK
Aye, sir.

KIRK
I'll be in my quarters if needed,
but I would prefer...

SAAVIK
Understood, sir.

KIRK
(aloud)
Dismiss the company. }


The entire Kirk/David reconciliation scene............



DAVID
I don't mean to intrude.

KIRK
Uh, no...
(rises)
I should be on the bridge.

DAVID
{ Are you running away from me? Looped line replaced this.

David's strength is turning a corner with Kirk --

KIRK
I suppose I was. }
(pause)
I poured a drink. Would you like
it?

DAVID
{ No. I -- I guess I'm not what you
expected.

KIRK
(rueful)
I didn't expect anything.

DAVID
That makes two of us. }
(he studies his
father)
Lieutenant Saavik was right: you
never have faced death --

KIRK
(hoarse)
Not like this -- no. I haven't faced
death, I cheated death. I tricked
my way out of death and patted myself
on the back for my ingenuity. I
know nothing.

DAVID
You knew enough to tell Saavik that
how we face death is at least as
important as how we face life --

KIRK
It was just words.

DAVID
But good words. That's where ideas
begin. Maybe you should listen to
them.

KIRK
{ I'm trying, David.

DAVID
So am I. My friends were killed,
too.

KIRK
I am truly sorry. }

Pause. They study each other.

DAVID
I was wrong about you. And I'm
sorry.

KIRK
Is that what you came here to say?

DAVID
Mainly.
I like the longer version but I am thankful Meyer fought the studio who wanted to cut the ENTIRE SCENE




The original bridge finale' (as you can see it is far longer than the portion seen in the 'Show-west' trailer Also they looped the line 'my son' to David Marcus to save the surprise.)

247 INT. ENTERPRISE BRIDGE 247

The door whooshes. Kirk strides on the bridge, David
with him. Carol is there with Bones; they are glad at
what they see.

SAAVIK
Admiral on the bridge!

KIRK
As you were, Mr. Saavik.

SAAVIK
Aye, sir. On course to Ceti Alpha.
All is well.

KIRK
Good, I believe you already know
my, uh, son --

Saavik comes close to blushing --

KIRK
(continuing)
Yes, well, why don't you show him
around and...

SAAVIK
Aye, sir --

She takes him off, deadpan amusement --

SAAVIK
(continuing)
So you turn out to be the dumb
bastard.

They stare at her.

SAAVIK
(continuing)
That is a little joke.

Kirk has a smile. He joins Bones and Carol facing the
screen.

BONES
She's changed her hair again.
(pause)
Will you look at that? Think
they'll name it for you, Doctor?

CAROL
Not if I can help it. We'll name
it for our friend.

BONES
He's really not dead....as long
as we remember him.

KIRK
(quietly)
It is a far far better thing I do
than I have ever done before... a
far better resting place I go to
than I have ever known........

 

[guardian]

By the way the six above sections of cut scenes represent about 70% of the cut dialogue from TWOK.
The other 30% consists of mostly 1 to 4 lines snippets of dialogue cut from scenes throughout the movie. Very few of which are that interesting.

I think I'd like to have seen about half of the larger sections reincorperated into the movie---making it about 7-10 minutes longer.

Of course, I'd like to see all of it in any future 'deleted scenes' section of a Blu-ray & DVD release.

It will take a lot to get folks to buy the movie for the 4th 5th or 6th time and a blurb of "18 minutes of never before seen footage" would get me into the store damn fast money in hand.

 

[Data Holmes]

By the way the six above sections of cut scenes represent about 70% of the cut dialogue from TWOK.
The other 30% consists of mostly 1 to 4 lines snippets of dialogue cut from scenes throughout the movie. Very few of which are that interesting.

I think I'd like to have seen about half of the larger sections reincorperated into the movie---making it about 7-10 minutes longer.

Of course, I'd like to see all of it in any future 'deleted scenes' section of a Blu-ray & DVD release.

It will take a lot to get folks to buy the movie for the 4th 5th or 6th time and a blurb of "18 minutes of never before seen footage" would get me into the store damn fast money in hand.

Take a lot... Are you kidding...

WE ARE TREKIES! We don't need a reason to buy our films for the fifth time.

 

[guardian]

^^ True, true.

But, I was referring to the folks who say 'no more triple, quadruple-dipping for me! "

I'd buy it on Blu-ray as long as it contains the Director's cut (it should contain both), but I'd buy it day one as the doors open if it had all that deleted footage!!!