TV shows that played against Star Trek TOS.

[Mr. Scott]

"What would have Roddenberry wanted" doesn't make sense either. I'm guessing that he meant to write "what would Roddenberry have wanted?"

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See post #2, you unobservant grammarians.

I would have avoided correcting a fellow adult's grammar.

But perhaps on the rumored casting couch, one of GR's intended conquests/victims might have exclaimed, "What! Roddenberry have wood?"

I am the OP. I did say "would of" or "could of" and if the grammar police do not like it, they can kiss my hairy ass. Language evolves, and there is no reason why someone can use could of, instead of could have. It's the same.

Who wrote the English Rules of Grammar anyway? I.P Freely? Seymour Butts? Dr. Anal Retentive? Kelsey Grammar?

 

[Forbin]

Really, I don't want to berate the issue, but, no, it's not the same, it's just incorrect. There is no such phrase as "would of." It's an incorrect hearing of "Would've" which is a contraction of "would have." The language is not evolving to include it, sorry, and no amount of personal anger and childish whining will suddenly make it correct.

Bonzie, I promise to stop now. Keep in mind I've worked in a publications/graphics department for 30 years, and everything I do gets proofread. It makes one very aware of how badly people communicate on the net. Sometimes I just have to point out the worst errors to keep sane.

 

[Christopher]

Besides, Leslie Nielsen? Really? I know it inspired Roddenberry and all, but the two are not in the same league in my opinion.

Leslie Nielsen was a respected dramatic actor for much of his career. Forbidden Planet was actually the film that made Nielsen's reputation in Hollywood as a dramatic leading man. That reputation is why the Zuckers cast him in Airplane! 24 years later -- the whole point there was to populate it with well-known serious actors (like Nielsen, Peter Graves, Lloyd Bridges, and Robert Stack) and have them deliver absurd lines with as much gravity and solemnity as possible. But somehow it led to Nielsen getting a reputation as a comedy actor and he went on to become known for his clownish performances, in complete opposition to the prior reputation that Airplane! was drawing on.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I remember switching to Judd For The Defense on ABC during the third year of TOS, as the former show's more sophisticated and topical stories appealed to me while Trek was just crashing and burning storywise.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Really, I don't want to berate the issue, but, no, it's not the same, it's just incorrect. There is no such phrase as "would of." It's an incorrect hearing of "Would've" which is a contraction of "would have." The language is not evolving to include it, sorry, and no amount of personal anger and childish whining will suddenly make it correct.

^^^ I thought this message bore repeating.

 

[A.V.I.A.F.]

Besides, Leslie Nielsen? Really? I know it inspired Roddenberry and all, but the two are not in the same league in my opinion.

Leslie Nielsen was a respected dramatic actor for much of his career. Forbidden Planet was actually the film that made Nielsen's reputation in Hollywood as a dramatic leading man. That reputation is why the Zuckers cast him in Airplane! 24 years later -- the whole point there was to populate it with well-known serious actors (like Nielsen, Peter Graves, Lloyd Bridges, and Robert Stack) and have them deliver absurd lines with as much gravity and solemnity as possible. But somehow it led to Nielsen getting a reputation as a comedy actor and he went on to become known for his clownish performances, in complete opposition to the prior reputation that Airplane! was drawing on.

I never thought he was particularly good as a dramatic actor. He's no William Shatner, that's for sure!

 

[Forbin]

Really, I don't want to berate the issue, but, no, it's not the same, it's just incorrect. There is no such phrase as "would of." It's an incorrect hearing of "Would've" which is a contraction of "would have." The language is not evolving to include it, sorry, and no amount of personal anger and childish whining will suddenly make it correct.

^^^ I thought this message bore repeating.

Self-correction: I meant "belabor" the issue. Berate was the wrong word to use there.

 

[Esteban]

I think you're facts are uncoordinated. TOS aired at 8:30, not 8, the first 2 seasons and 10, not 9, in the 3rd. Eastern Time, that is.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Obviously it was a period of "fluff", musical variety shows and rather insipid sitcoms dominate with the odd cop show or western here and there, shows where the national psyche was focused, sci-fi it an odd-man-out in the lineup.

All true (I remember those days). But just a few weeks after Trek's cancellation, Apollo 11 landed on the moon and America went "space-happy". I wonder, if Trek had stayed on one more season, how the ratings might have been.

I dunno, I remember those days too. America was space happy throughout the 60s. Thats why Major Tony Nelson in I Dream of Jeannie was an astronaut and Major Matt Mason was a popular toy. The Moon landing was probaly the apex of America's "space happy" period and its been in decline ever since.

 

[Forbin]

Obviously it was a period of "fluff", musical variety shows and rather insipid sitcoms dominate with the odd cop show or western here and there, shows where the national psyche was focused, sci-fi it an odd-man-out in the lineup.

All true (I remember those days). But just a few weeks after Trek's cancellation, Apollo 11 landed on the moon and America went "space-happy". I wonder, if Trek had stayed on one more season, how the ratings might have been.

I dunno, I remember those days too. America was space happy throughout the 60s. Thats why Major Tony Nelson in I Dream of Jeannie was an astronaut and Major Matt Mason was a popular toy. The Moon landing was probaly the apex of America's "space happy" period and its been in decline ever since.

...to come to shameful halt the moment Atlantis finishes her rollout.

 

[Gary7]

All true (I remember those days). But just a few weeks after Trek's cancellation, Apollo 11 landed on the moon and America went "space-happy". I wonder, if Trek had stayed on one more season, how the ratings might have been.

I think you're right, Hambone, that this had a significant influence. With the milestone of landing on the moon, the imagination would be sparked for anyone with the slightest interest in space travel. If we could go from a simple satellite in orbit to a human being landing on the moon in just one decade, who knows how fast things would develop? People like Gerry Anderson went overboard, thinking we could somehow have a moon base by 1980... and Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick envisioned it happening by the end of the century (2101 would have been a better title). Seriously out of touch with reality, but I can appreciate the exuberance of the time. So... Star Trek didn't seem so far off back in those days.

 

[Christopher]

People like Gerry Anderson went overboard, thinking we could somehow have a moon base by 1980...

Oh, we certainly could have. Technologically, it could've happened. Heck, we went from the first orbiting satellite to humans walking on the moon in just 12 years -- if that same driven pace had endured, we could've established at least a small permanent base on the Moon within the following 11 years. The reasons it didn't happen were political and economic. The space race was driven by political competition and didn't really have any material payoff. Once America had proven its superiority in space and won the symbolic battle, there just wasn't enough additional payoff to justify the expense of it all.

But at the height of the space race, that wasn't as clear. A lot of smart people, not just TV producers but scientists, believed we would establish permanent lunar habitation in the 1980s and put people on Mars before the end of the century. Looking back in retrospect, it may seem absurd that anyone could think we'd advance so far so early, but trust me, to people in the early '70s, it would've seemed absurd to think that we still wouldn't have humans living on the Moon and Mars as late as 2011. Nobody back then, even the greatest minds around, would've believed it credible that after achieving such amazing advances in spaceflight in a mere dozen years, we'd then let it all lie fallow for another four decades.

 

[Forbin]

When Atlantis lands for the last time, I may have myself frozen until things pick up again.

 

[Nerys Myk]

When Atlantis lands for the last time, I may have myself frozen until things pick up again.

Give Wilma Deering my best.

 

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Ahem... that's "regularly scheduled program."