Yeah--you say that, Dennis, but you have yet to back it up with evidence. If you can show evidence, fine, but really, why do people care??? Do they WANT something bad to be there??
True (?): the cast did not get along!
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Eh, nobody figured to ask Chase Masterson about it? 
But then again, why does anyone care? On screen, the characters are a great family and fun to watch. I'm not really interested if the actors liked each other or not.
But then again, why does anyone care? On screen, the characters are a great family and fun to watch. I'm not really interested if the actors liked each other or not.
Well, DS9 was a far darker, and probably more grueling show to film. Brooks seems to take his acting *very* seriously, and he had to portray a serious, jaded figure. Marina probably just got the wrong impression from Brooks as he was trying to get into his "element". Maybe he was a Method Actor and tried to *be* Sisko as often as possible.
I don't think they were as close as TNG. The TNG cast almost seem like a second family, at least all of them are kind of like pseudo-family members to one another.
But I don't see why it matters really. Maybe the TNG cast are close since they're all similar personalities. In conventions, it seems Spiner, Stewart, Frakes, Dorn, Wheaton, Sirtis, etc. all come across as genuinely funny people. But in life not everybody gets along, so it's to be expected to an extent.
But I don't see why it matters really. Maybe the TNG cast are close since they're all similar personalities. In conventions, it seems Spiner, Stewart, Frakes, Dorn, Wheaton, Sirtis, etc. all come across as genuinely funny people. But in life not everybody gets along, so it's to be expected to an extent.
I don't think that is uncommon for actors- you are always on the move, always meeting new people. It's tough to stay in contact with the actors from just one project.
When Bob Picardo went over to the DS9 set for his cameo episode, he did note in an interview that there was a lot less joking around on set, and that this atmosphere was mainly generated by Brooks, who was very serious and basically wanted to get the job done.
This is not a knock against Brooks, but he might not have been there to make friends (although his love and affection for Cirroc is very clear in any interviews you see of him on the DVD boxset).
I've never understood why fans really care about the cast getting along; and when you boil it down, it's just a workplace. I've worked for the same company for 16 years and there are people that I get along with extremely well, some I am cordial with, some I don't really know, and a few that I can't stand, yet we all come together to do our jobs and succeed. Ultimately the finished product that ends up on the screen is the most important part. If Walter Koenig hated Shatner, so what?
I'd be more concerned about when the producers and writers have issues with a certain actor, then you might see that character be given less lines, or story arcs that could ultimately hurt the show.
I'd be more concerned about when the producers and writers have issues with a certain actor, then you might see that character be given less lines, or story arcs that could ultimately hurt the show.
This is an excellent point. For that actors, the DS9 set was a workplace, not a social hall. And just like with any workplace, some people were closer than others.
I don't think it was so much 'factions', though, as it was the fact that the cast was so huge, and not everyone worked a lot with everyone else. But most all of them seemed to get along very well with the people they worked with a lot...so apparently there weren't any real assholes in the crowd.
As far as the actors are concerned, given the size of the cast, I think it is very telling that many of these actors are known for being friendly with the people they worked with most - even to this day. Brooks and Cirroc Lofton were and are close, Jeffrey Combs and Casey Biggs are good friends, Armin and Rene seem to be friendly, Armin and the other Ferengi actors are friendly, Sid and Colm are friends, Sid and Nana are still on good terms, despite their divorce.
I honestly don't see any problem here.
As for the businesslike atmosphere on the set, I think that if Brooks set that tone, he had it right. Once again, this was a huge cast that no doubt required a complex shooting schedule. And that fact, combined with the fact that they were doing a lot of arc based stories that they had to keep in their heads was no doubt a challenge. So what if it wasn't a yuck a minute on set? It was a WORKPLACE to them. And the end product shows that there was a very high level of professionalism maintained. Because there ARE no 'weak links' on this show - everyone did their job, and did it well. And that is all we can really hope for, as fans.
And I agree - the more dangerous situation is when the writers & producers have personal relationships with the cast that cause them to lose objectivity. Whether that be an exceptionally good personal relationship or an exceptionally bad one. I think that VOY turning into the Seven of Nine Show is a perfect example of how a good personal relationship between a cast member and producer can actually work to the detriment of the show. Because it was VERY obvious that Jeri Ryan was favored over all the other actors on the show. And this created a lot of tension - particularly in the last seasons, when other actors were given less and less to do so that Jeri and Bob Picardo could rule the universe on that show. Given what happened, I really think that Kate Mulgrew is one of the classiest ladies I know, because you never hear any bitterness about it from her. I admire her a lot for that. Ditto for Tim Russ, who also got screwed out of screentime and character development because so much was dumped into Jeri Ryan.
I tell you what - I'd much rather have the professional atmosphere of the DS9 set - where the stories were much more holistically drawn based on what had come before in the show, rather than driven by what was going on in relationships off the set.
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It casts a new light on this scene, doesn't it?Ah well you learn something new everyday.
lol, but the way you described it above, made the whole pregnancy situation a bit "Hillbilly"
In real life, Bashir and Kira hooked up, got married and she got pregnant, but it was actually O'Brien and Keiko's which eventually became Kira's to carry..... Yee HawNext on Springer.
Being that the scene was written specifically to make the intertextual joke that it makes, I don't know how it casts a "new" light per se, but you're also not wrong, at least not according to the DS9 Companion.
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I don't know where the rumor started that the DS9 cast didn't get along. It's true that they weren't as chummy as the TNG cast was and that the DS9 set was much more subdued than TNG's. On the DS9 dvds, Nana Visitor said that guest stars sometimes were surprised at how quiet it was but the actors were very much focused on their work. A few year back I saw René Auberjonois at a convention and he mentioned that when the show started Rick Berman 'laid down the law' to the cast about being professional on set and getting the job done. Berman apparently was fed up with the rowdy nature of the TNG cast. Micheal Dorn has said that when he came on board that it was his mission to get the cast to loosen up a bit.
I have heard that many members of the cast had serious beefs with Terry Farrell. I don't know how true this is but at a convention Marina Siritis who was friends with Terry long before DS9 said she's sure a lot of the cast probably helped Terry pack her bags when she left the show.
As far as I know, beyond the original series the only cast that had serious issues with not getting along was Voyager. After Jennifer Lien was fired to bring on Jeri Ryan, Kate Mulgrew was furious and was pretty terrible to Jeri for the rest of the run. The rest of the cast got fed-up with it (though most of them weren't too close to Jeri either because most of their screen time went to her) and even Kate has admitted the only cast member that said goodbye to her on the last day of filming was Robert Picardo.
I have heard that many members of the cast had serious beefs with Terry Farrell. I don't know how true this is but at a convention Marina Siritis who was friends with Terry long before DS9 said she's sure a lot of the cast probably helped Terry pack her bags when she left the show.
As far as I know, beyond the original series the only cast that had serious issues with not getting along was Voyager. After Jennifer Lien was fired to bring on Jeri Ryan, Kate Mulgrew was furious and was pretty terrible to Jeri for the rest of the run. The rest of the cast got fed-up with it (though most of them weren't too close to Jeri either because most of their screen time went to her) and even Kate has admitted the only cast member that said goodbye to her on the last day of filming was Robert Picardo.
Well, if I may make my contribution to thread necrophilia, I remember an interview with Armin Shimerman (it was in a magazine, so I don't have a link) where he said that his relationship was Brooks was basically 'Hello Mr Brooks' 'Hello Mr Shimerman.'
No discord or hostility, just no great closeness either. It was simply a professional relationship. But at the end of the day, how many of us are great friends with all of the people we work with? It's a working relationship, it doesn't have to turn into a friendship.
No discord or hostility, just no great closeness either. It was simply a professional relationship. But at the end of the day, how many of us are great friends with all of the people we work with? It's a working relationship, it doesn't have to turn into a friendship.
Havent watched the youtube video yet,but i reckon they got along fine,they always saying that they are a family.
I'll hold off on the mocking since the thread was new to me and I enjoyed reading through it.
I reserve the right to mock later, indiscriminately and for no reason.
I can't corroborate this, but I recall Shimerman not being happy that Brooks didn't promote the show on talk shows etc as much as Shimerman thought he should have done. Brooks has always said he dislikes the Hollywood scene and if you read in the DS9 Companion and Star Trek Action he returned to New York when a season ended.
That's what people tend to forget: it's a working relationship. They go in, the go out, and that's it, most of the time. Like in every workplace.
Don't be fooled by film and TV promotions where they jerk off each other when asked "how is it to work with XY?" Once filming wraps, most of them don't see each other again.
Don't be fooled by film and TV promotions where they jerk off each other when asked "how is it to work with XY?" Once filming wraps, most of them don't see each other again.
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Well that is true for the vast majority of acting gigs, a television show with 7 seasons, 176 episodes is quite a bit different from the average acting job. The cast even knew they were almost certain to get 7 seasons given how popular Star Trek was too (even TNG didn't have this kind of confidence; people were worried early on it could fail before it became a smash success).
That being said, I am going through the compendium now and it does seem everything said here makes sense. The cast was huge and some people had way more scenes together (i.e. the Ferengi clique) and some people barely interacted with each other (like oh say Dax and Odo).
I am quite happy though that the relationships we saw on the show did reflect real life relationships for the most part. For example Alexander Siddig was good friends with Andrew Robinson (who was the godfather of his and Nana Visitor's son) and he would also go out with Colm Meaney twice a week to a pub (where they would constantly prank and fight with each other) during the 7 years of DS9 (and they apparently still do it everytime they get a chance to see each other). Garak and Bashir Live! As does O'brien and Bashir! Likewise for all the other friendships aready mentioned.
They might not have been as chummy as TNG but I feel genuine satisfaction that things like the friendship between Bashir and O'brien live on in some small way between the actors that breathed life into those characters (even though almost all the cast members do not see each other much except for conventions).
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