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News Trans character announced

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Ian Alexander is Gray, Trek's first trans character. And Blu del Barrio is Aria, the nonbinary character glimpsed in the trailer and leaked promo art.

No issues, beyond hoping they are written well.

Based on the high quotient of small universe syndrome in CBS trek, I' d bet big money on Dax btw.

The only thing that might stop them is having to pay royalties to Rick Berman and the estate of Michael Piller.
 
I think the character of Dax is owned by CBS, not by Berman or Piller.

Still due royalties. Much like Nick Locarno became Tom Paris (same actor), and T'Pau became T'Pol to keep from paying those writers royalties.
 
The TOS and TNG main characters are Roddenberry-created, so there's more leeway with Rod Roddenberry as an Executive Producer.

What did they do when it came to having Seven on Picard?
 
I imagine they paid royalties. Doesn't mean they are going to want to do it every time.
I don't think so either. If that's the case: They were willing to do it for Seven of Nine, but I don't think most DS9, VOY, or ENT characters would be so lucky.

So I think if they (not just Discovery but in general) want to use Legacy Characters, they'll probably stick to TOS and TNG 99% of the time. Just my educated guess.
 
I don't think so either. If that's the case: They were willing to do it for Seven of Nine, but I don't think most DS9, VOY, or ENT characters would be so lucky.

I think because there was no other way to handle that part of the plot without Jeri Ryan reprising Seven (beyond rewriting). Fans would've rioted if we got the blond bombshell Four of Six, who was clearly just Seven with a name change to save money.
 
Wow, and I thought it was just one. CBSTrek gotta CBSTrek I guess.

I wish they'd spend a little less time sledgehammering in this sort of politics for the sake of headlines and a little more time on telling good, cohesive stories with good characters. That'd be a welcome change.

Hopefully they won't be another Culber season 1 who was in the show simply so the showrunners could shout about how "we put a gay couple in Star Trek!".
 
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I wish they'd spend a little less time sledgehammering in SJW politics for the sake of headlines and a little more time on telling good stories with good characters.

We won’t know if they are good characters with good stories until we see the show.
 
Star Trek didn't even have any LGBTQ+ representation until 2016. First transgender and non-binary characters within five years of the first gay character is actually comparatively progressive.
The Outcast was in 1992, and although it's too inadequate for some people, it at least was an attempt at addressing the broader topic, and some LGBTQs liked it a lot.
 
I didn't mean them. I meant the show as a whole.

For the first time, we have a showrunner who stayed with the show for an entire season. I’m hoping that alleviates a lot of the problems I have with the writing.
 
The Outcast was for many years just a dreadfully hamfisted attempt to do a "gay" episode. It failed on many levels. Strangely, it works better now when you look at more through the perspective of gender. Hopefully we can do better than that now.
 
That’s the thing though. There could have been all sorts of lgtbqwtfbbq characters this whole time. But it wasn’t mentioned because no one cares about that in the future. What will be the point of telling us, the audience, and not mentioning it in the show? They’ll address it in some way. Imagine if someone had never seen this announcement. How would they know the characters are non-binary or whatever?

Barclay could have been transgender for all we know. Feel free to throw in any other character. There have always been non-binary and transgender characters in Star Trek. ;)

They have to shout about it. Discovery showrunners crave headlines and PR pats on the back for this type of virtue signalling. Incoherent mess of story-telling? Paper thin characters with zero foundation? A tone that shifts every season because they have no idea what show they want this to be? Who cares.
 
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They have to shout about it. Discovery showrunners crave headlines and PR pats on the back for this type of virtue signalling. Incoherent mess of story-telling? Paper thin characters with zero foundation? A tone that shifts every season because they have no idea what show they want this to be? Who cares, just throw in a woman crew member who identifies as a toaster in season 4.

Nothing like hysterical ranting.
 
Well written storys is kind of what I'm worried about, I mean Pike had to LITERALLY do a roll call in the 2nd season to get the b team names out.
So hopefully there not introduced then fade in to the background like the bridge crew. but we'll see.
Just hope they don't focus on the trans/non binary character just because there that, and there characters are paper cutouts in story development.
 
I hope these are well written and developed characters. They have done a good job with Stamets and Culber so I am optimistic.

The dudes who were super unhappy about multiple gay characters on Discovery are going to lose their lunch over this, but I don't care (probably have them on ignore anyway),
 
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