Ya I was really hoping they would release the movies individually as well as in a box set
I cant even imagine the price they will be charging for this box set. I bet it will be marked up BIG time because of the hype for Trek 11.
TOS movies announced for Blu-ray !!
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Ya I was really hoping they would release the movies individually as well as in a box set
I cant even imagine the price they will be charging for this box set. I bet it will be marked up BIG time because of the hype for Trek 11.
While the initial Blu-Ray releases were only one version or another, while they were working out the format (like Terminator 2 and Independence Day, recent releases (like Dark City) have included multiple versions.
Re: ST4 European edition in blu-ray
I doubt we will get the European version of Trek 4 in the US. I dont think the European version has ever been released here.
I doubt we will get the European version of Trek 4 in the US. I dont think the European version has ever been released here.
Re: ST4 European edition in blu-ray
No, not even as a bonus feature.
No, not even as a bonus feature.
I don't think it has been mentioned here that the commentaries for 1, 2 & 6 by Wise & meyer will be jettisoned because they are specific to the longer editions.
They plan to replace them with commentaries by "Celebrity fans" ugh...
So that's another feature lost with replacement by a dubious one.
Would many folks want Meyer's commentary replaced by Jason Alexander or some celeb. fan? Maybe, in addtion to, but instead of??
Also some people aren't aware that the version of TUC they'll be seeing isn't the one from 1992-2002. They think the version being left out is the 2003 version with minor tweaks. I've seem people say things like, "oh well, it's just a few seconds difference' or I didn't like the images of the conspirators anyway."
No, this version will remove over 3 minutes seen in every version since it's first release----Operation: retrieve, Spock, Scott & Valeris in the torp room.
Some peole will be surprised when they find they've paid $100+ DOLLARS TO GET A SHORTENED VERSION THEY'VE NEVER SEEN.
Do you think Paramount will make any effort to let the fans know this beyond simply saying 'original theatrical version' Of course not.
Fans here may know, but many more casual fans will get a nasty surprise.
And deleted scenes this time??
They plan to replace them with commentaries by "Celebrity fans" ugh...
So that's another feature lost with replacement by a dubious one.
Would many folks want Meyer's commentary replaced by Jason Alexander or some celeb. fan? Maybe, in addtion to, but instead of??
Also some people aren't aware that the version of TUC they'll be seeing isn't the one from 1992-2002. They think the version being left out is the 2003 version with minor tweaks. I've seem people say things like, "oh well, it's just a few seconds difference' or I didn't like the images of the conspirators anyway."
No, this version will remove over 3 minutes seen in every version since it's first release----Operation: retrieve, Spock, Scott & Valeris in the torp room.
Some peole will be surprised when they find they've paid $100+ DOLLARS TO GET A SHORTENED VERSION THEY'VE NEVER SEEN.
Do you think Paramount will make any effort to let the fans know this beyond simply saying 'original theatrical version' Of course not.
Fans here may know, but many more casual fans will get a nasty surprise.
And deleted scenes this time??
That would be a great feature.
I remember in 1987 seeing a long multi-page photo-montage of the space-walk sequence with many portions of the scene shown and then in 2001 we see the DVD DC and in the extras a few measly shot of the wall without the actors??
And once again people saying, "it was never shot" or "they must have lost the footage"
Yeah right, they lost the footage of the actual scene with the actors but found the sequence with just the suits on a 'clothsline' against the set??
Even if they had lost the footage then do what they've done for dozens of other lost sequences.....
Use photos and storyboards to re-create it for the disc.
But we know they're saving it for releases #19 and 23 and no other releases. Unfortunately this Blu-ray release in only number 17 darn it !!!
Oh well maybe for the 35th anniversary of TMP in 2014.
If TFF is included it could just be a regular dvd version. I can just picture how bad it might look in HD. I doubt Paramount wants to spend any more money on TFF, when they didn't want to have an extended version of Nemsis. Anything that didn't make them a crap load of money they tend to give it a so-so release
^^^ Are you making a joke/insult or are you an idiot........???
The Blu-ray release 'could just be regular DVD version'
What does that even mean?
That is should/will be just be a bare bones release?
that it will/should be in standard definition?
What??
Also,... you 'can just picture how bad it might look in HD'.......??
Once again pure idiocy----the live action stuff will look just fine in HD (there was nothing wrong with the cinematography)
And the FX won't look any worse than they did in the theater---so be it.
There are tons of fans of this movie and it WILL get a hi-def transfer and it WILL contain some new features and it WILL contain some feature from the previous release etc.
If you weren't just making an insult or joke then at least make clear what you mean.
The Blu-ray release 'could just be regular DVD version'
What does that even mean?
That is should/will be just be a bare bones release?
that it will/should be in standard definition?
What??
Also,... you 'can just picture how bad it might look in HD'.......??
Once again pure idiocy----the live action stuff will look just fine in HD (there was nothing wrong with the cinematography)
And the FX won't look any worse than they did in the theater---so be it.
There are tons of fans of this movie and it WILL get a hi-def transfer and it WILL contain some new features and it WILL contain some feature from the previous release etc.
If you weren't just making an insult or joke then at least make clear what you mean.
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The best bet for everyone is to hold off and wait. I'm sure all of us own the movies on DVD. Show some self control and wait for the studio to release the inevitable "special editions" and then make your purchase. For all we know the special editions will contain 2 versions of the movie. If not, by the time the double dip arrives the original theatrical versions will be bargain bin prices. So we're all winners regardless. Another note- I was watching TMP DVD the other day on my LCD HDTV with my Blu-Ray player and honestly it looked fine, sure if you stood an inch away from the TV you'll notice slight pixelation, but who the hell watches TV that way. I will buy the second round of "special edition" blu-ray movies when their released to take full advantage of my home entertainment system, but I put my foot down there. I will not be re-buying all my Star Trek seasons. I have invested too much money.
I was meant look at paramount's history of milking trek, you don't honestly think they wouldn't do a barebones version-just the film and or some cheap extra i.e the film's trailer. There is a rumor that the only the original version of TMP was going to be part of the movie set. By now the information has been update. It(TFF) can't look any worse that in the theater, there wasn't HD is the theaters. If lucky if there was some theater reshowing TFF in HD perhaps that a different point of view, I wasn't even talking about live action shots, unless there is still some dust or dirt on the negatives.
I was talking more about the SFX, if you look at the some of the shots even shatner himself said the sfx wasn't that good near the end of production. The production went over budget, if TFF would be comparable to the other TOS films sfx wise it would need to be redone or minor upgrades imo. Blu-ray will just highlight especially with older and new films with bad sfx-mistakes and/or cheapness of the effects. Thats what I meant, I could be wrong but when it comes to sfxs but compared to ST: 4 and ST: 6 are they more to none going to look better than TFF.
How exactly will Blu-ray "highlight" something that was obviously bad in the movie theaters back in 1989? The original film print is still at a higher resolution (~2000p) than Blu-ray (1080p), so it's not like Blu-ray will be unearthing heretofore unknown blemishes in the film.
He's just another one of those people who still don't understand film has a higher resolution than ANY HD format.
Even in Blu-ray there would be things not as clear as you'd have seen in the theater in 1989.
His original post was nonsense.
Of course it will be transferred to high def and it'll have some new & old features.
'regular dvd version' on Blu-ray
Even in Blu-ray there would be things not as clear as you'd have seen in the theater in 1989.
His original post was nonsense.
Of course it will be transferred to high def and it'll have some new & old features.
'regular dvd version' on Blu-ray
Depends on the theater and the condition of the print.
Using this argument, it also depends on the monitor and how well it's aligned. Virtually all HDTV monitors out of the box are set up for shit. A proper alignment can run you $3-500. Have you considered that?
There's no end to this road. I need new glasses. Does my old perscription in 2009 versus a new perscription in 1989 come into play, too?
The simple fact is that film is a much higher resolution medium than HD, even at 1080p. It has greater contrast, color purity and less grain.
There's no end to this road. I need new glasses. Does my old perscription in 2009 versus a new perscription in 1989 come into play, too?
The simple fact is that film is a much higher resolution medium than HD, even at 1080p. It has greater contrast, color purity and less grain.
I've considered that. But at least you can get your HDTV configured properly, whereas theater chains don't seem to have much interest in doing so.
The prescription would only come into play if the two didn't correct your eyes to the same point.
Less grain? No, film is going to have significantly more grain. The print you see in theaters will have gone through at least one additional copy (from duplication master to the copy shown in the theaters), adding more grain there. The Blu-ray will have been made from a master of the same generation as the duplication master was, and doesn't add any grain of its own.
The prescription would only come into play if the two didn't correct your eyes to the same point.
Less grain? No, film is going to have significantly more grain. The print you see in theaters will have gone through at least one additional copy (from duplication master to the copy shown in the theaters), adding more grain there. The Blu-ray will have been made from a master of the same generation as the duplication master was, and doesn't add any grain of its own.
You mean these pics? At the Forgotten Trek website we have an extensive look into the making of ST:TMP -- and we have an in-depth look at the original spacewalk and memory wall sequence.
The line about the footage not existing is malarkey. It's like Saddam's WMD...it clearly existed at one time -- at least. Maybe Lincoln Enterprises got ahold of it and cut it up into stills (as some have alledged), or maybe Curt McAloney has it and sits up late at night watching it and laughing at us all...;-) Who knows? But one thing is for sure -- it was shot.
Now, the effects were clearly never completed, so even if it does exist and by some miracle makes it onto a future ST:TMP DVD release, you'll no doubt be seeing a lot of soundstage in some shots.
Anyway, take a look at this -- and I recommend this site for anyone interested in the "unseen" ST:TMP.
http://www.ottens.co.uk/forgottentrek/tmp_19.php
Saddam's WMD
Saddam's WMD were destroyed by the teams that were given that assignment in 1991. Over the next 5 years they methodically destroyed them.
Then in 1996 after the commiision was about declare Iraq 'WMD free' ---the Clinton administration---for domestic political reasons----declared that Iraq MUST be hiding some. That way they could keep up the sanctions and look 'tough on terror' for the upcoming elections.
That plan worked out really great didn't it----half a million dead innocent iraqis from pointless santions and an excuse for Captain Moron to launch as 'easily winnable war' that took another half a million or so lives and will cost us nearly a trillion dollars before we're out.
Maybe 'honesty is the best policy' is true sometimes after all.
Oh, the thread topic? Yeah right, TFF will get a HD transfer for the Blu-ray despite how the theater was outfited in 1989 or despite your eyesight or despite how your monitor is set-up. It WILL get an HD transfer and they WILL NOT 'just release the standard version.
Saddam's WMD were destroyed by the teams that were given that assignment in 1991. Over the next 5 years they methodically destroyed them.
Then in 1996 after the commiision was about declare Iraq 'WMD free' ---the Clinton administration---for domestic political reasons----declared that Iraq MUST be hiding some. That way they could keep up the sanctions and look 'tough on terror' for the upcoming elections.
That plan worked out really great didn't it----half a million dead innocent iraqis from pointless santions and an excuse for Captain Moron to launch as 'easily winnable war' that took another half a million or so lives and will cost us nearly a trillion dollars before we're out.
Maybe 'honesty is the best policy' is true sometimes after all.
Oh, the thread topic? Yeah right, TFF will get a HD transfer for the Blu-ray despite how the theater was outfited in 1989 or despite your eyesight or despite how your monitor is set-up. It WILL get an HD transfer and they WILL NOT 'just release the standard version.
Quick review here, guys:
Discussion of TFF's crappy special effects and how they'll look on Blu-ray? Trek Movies
Saddam Hussein and WMDs? TNZ
Don't make me have to remind folks again.
Discussion of TFF's crappy special effects and how they'll look on Blu-ray? Trek Movies
Saddam Hussein and WMDs? TNZ
Don't make me have to remind folks again.
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