Torchwood: Miracle Day episode one "The New World"

[Stevil2001]

The bridge on I-95 across the Susquehanna is like that. Traveling south across it, there is no toll. Traveling north across it, you pay the toll after you've crossed it. It's marked before you get to the bridge that there will be a toll, and if you know the stretch of road, you'll know why there simply can't be a toll on the south bank of the bridge -- the interstate curves down a hill and through a cliff cut and then you've over the water, and there's no space for a toll plaza except for on the north side.

Yeah, the Governor Hamilton Fish Newburgh-Beacon Bridge (love saying that!) on I-84 over the Hudson in New York is like this. No toll on westbound, but eastbound you pay a toll (a whole dollar!) after crossing. Of course, there are tons of signs before the last exit telling you this is gonna happen.

I'm also reminded of the Delaware border crossings on I-95. Seriously, the toll plazas to get into and out of Delaware are like East Germany before the fall of Communism. Of course, those toll plazas are how Delaware finances state government.

Delaware's tolls are so prohibitive that the state's essentially inaccessible from the rest of the United States. Hence why there are dinosaurs there, but nowhere else in America.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Well it looks like it premiered well at least

“Torchwood: Miracle Day’s” post-holiday weekend premiere on July 8 delivered a combined Friday night audience of 1.51 million viewers P2+; 819K viewers for Friday at 10PM ET/PT (1.9 Live + SD HH Rating) and 687K for 11pm ET/PT (1.4 Live + SD HH Rating).
Total weekend viewership (Friday airings + Sunday 10PM ET/PT and 1AM ET/PT airings) was 2 million viewers P2+, Live + SD (1.96M).
The performance of “Torchwood: Miracle Day” was at parity with the network’s April debut of “Camelot” (1.57M viewers Friday night/2.087 weekend million – both P2+, Live +SD), Starz highest-rated original series premiere to date.
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[Sindatur]

Well it looks like it premiered well at least

“Torchwood: Miracle Day’s” post-holiday weekend premiere on July 8 delivered a combined Friday night audience of 1.51 million viewers P2+; 819K viewers for Friday at 10PM ET/PT (1.9 Live + SD HH Rating) and 687K for 11pm ET/PT (1.4 Live + SD HH Rating).
Total weekend viewership (Friday airings + Sunday 10PM ET/PT and 1AM ET/PT airings) was 2 million viewers P2+, Live + SD (1.96M).
The performance of “Torchwood: Miracle Day” was at parity with the network’s April debut of “Camelot” (1.57M viewers Friday night/2.087 weekend million – both P2+, Live +SD), Starz highest-rated original series premiere to date.
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That could be mixed news though.

They have decided not to renew Camelot. I'm hoping that's because Camelot didn't hang onto that audience?

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Well it looks like it premiered well at least

“Torchwood: Miracle Day’s” post-holiday weekend premiere on July 8 delivered a combined Friday night audience of 1.51 million viewers P2+; 819K viewers for Friday at 10PM ET/PT (1.9 Live + SD HH Rating) and 687K for 11pm ET/PT (1.4 Live + SD HH Rating).
Total weekend viewership (Friday airings + Sunday 10PM ET/PT and 1AM ET/PT airings) was 2 million viewers P2+, Live + SD (1.96M).
The performance of “Torchwood: Miracle Day” was at parity with the network’s April debut of “Camelot” (1.57M viewers Friday night/2.087 weekend million – both P2+, Live +SD), Starz highest-rated original series premiere to date.
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That could be mixed news though.

They have decided not to renew Camelot. I'm hoping that's because Camelot didn't hang onto that audience?

I dunno, they were apparently quite happy with the ratings, but there were production problems, they lost the exec producer/head writer to another show, they were producing in 3 separate countries and with 3 different production companies, so there were a lot of factors in Camelot being cancelled I think.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Geez.. This is killing me... I can't wait to see it.. Do we have a definative time frame for when this will be on Netflix? I've heard numbers all over the place for this.

Rumor has it that you can watch it on StarzPlay only when it's airing (no idea why they'd do it like that - do they take time zones into account?), but I haven't seen any evidence of it on Netflix. Can't check it out myself because it requires a PC with IE, which I have religious objections to.

PS, the Golden Gate Bridge makes you pay after you've crossed it. coming from the Marin side. There are signs that warn you of course. In case you'd rather swim.

In Boston, I bet they charge at both ends..

Imagine if Las Vegas had bridges. They'd charge you every ten feet.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Yeah Internet Explorer sucks.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

For comparison purposes, here's an archive of Camelot's ratings.

It dropped, but pulled back up at the end. 1.125M viewers for the premiere sounds like they were just counting the first showing and not the whole weekend, which was over 2M.

 

[od0_ital]

Whatever happened to the pet Pterodactyl and all the Weevils? Went kablooey with the rest of Torchwood?

That'd be my guess, yeah...

 

[Photoman15]

Geez.. This is killing me... I can't wait to see it.. Do we have a definative time frame for when this will be on Netflix? I've heard numbers all over the place for this.

Rumor has it that you can watch it on StarzPlay only when it's airing (no idea why they'd do it like that - do they take time zones into account?), but I haven't seen any evidence of it on Netflix. Can't check it out myself because it requires a PC with IE, which I have religious objections to.

PS, the Golden Gate Bridge makes you pay after you've crossed it. coming from the Marin side. There are signs that warn you of course. In case you'd rather swim.

In Boston, I bet they charge at both ends..

Imagine if Las Vegas had bridges. They'd charge you every ten feet.

Forgetting your aversion to IE, I watch Netflix in my Firefox browser all the time. You have to a recent version (high 3's or 4 or 5).

 

[Guy Gardener]

I suppose I thought episode one was slow because I'm still not used to the idea that all ten instalments are just segments to a colossal movie.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Geez.. This is killing me... I can't wait to see it.. Do we have a definative time frame for when this will be on Netflix? I've heard numbers all over the place for this.

Rumor has it that you can watch it on StarzPlay only when it's airing (no idea why they'd do it like that - do they take time zones into account?), but I haven't seen any evidence of it on Netflix. Can't check it out myself because it requires a PC with IE, which I have religious objections to.

PS, the Golden Gate Bridge makes you pay after you've crossed it. coming from the Marin side. There are signs that warn you of course. In case you'd rather swim.

In Boston, I bet they charge at both ends..

Imagine if Las Vegas had bridges. They'd charge you every ten feet.

Forgetting your aversion to IE, I watch Netflix in my Firefox browser all the time. You have to a recent version (high 3's or 4 or 5).

But is it StarzPlay? On Netflix, they give PC/IE as a requirement for that specifically (not for their other instant play shows).

 

[Sindatur]

Rumor has it that you can watch it on StarzPlay only when it's airing (no idea why they'd do it like that - do they take time zones into account?), but I haven't seen any evidence of it on Netflix. Can't check it out myself because it requires a PC with IE, which I have religious objections to.

PS, the Golden Gate Bridge makes you pay after you've crossed it. coming from the Marin side. There are signs that warn you of course. In case you'd rather swim.



Imagine if Las Vegas had bridges. They'd charge you every ten feet.

Forgetting your aversion to IE, I watch Netflix in my Firefox browser all the time. You have to a recent version (high 3's or 4 or 5).

But is it StarzPlay? On Netflix, they give PC/IE as a requirement for that specifically (not for their other instant play shows).

Is there no Mac Equivalent option for it (Maybe it's in the corner in the fine print )

That's weird if not. PC may have the large chunk of the market, but, still, you don't want to throw away business by excluding folks

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I'm also reminded of the Delaware border crossings on I-95. Seriously, the toll plazas to get into and out of Delaware are like East Germany before the fall of Communism. Of course, those toll plazas are how Delaware finances state government.

Actually, that's not true. The Delaware Memorial Bridge toll is used to support the bridge and the roads around it (on both sides). The toll is while entering Delaware, but it's not a Delaware run toll. The Maryland-Delaware border toll is both directions and split between them. Just take the Elkton/Newark exit and cross the Maryland border that way. Then take South College (896-S) to 95 and you save yourself $4 going north. Can't help you with the Bridge, though.

Delaware finances itself through chartering fees for corporations.

Delaware's tolls are so prohibitive that the state's essentially inaccessible from the rest of the United States. Hence why there are dinosaurs there, but nowhere else in America.

Apparently the Dinosaurs are by my house (in DE) too.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I have to admit, I have a PC. Someday I will dump it for the better option. But after a particularly horrific incident, I evicted IE forever. I use Firefox, sometimes Safari, and wouldn't mind checking out Chrome, but IE is a big deal-breaker. Anyway IE is less than 50% of the market now (losing out to Chrome).

 

[Sindatur]

I have to admit, I have a PC. Someday I will dump it for the better option. But after a particularly horrific incident, I evicted IE forever. I use Firefox, sometimes Safari, and wouldn't mind checking out Chrome, but IE is a big deal-breaker. Anyway IE is less than 50% of the market now (losing out to Chrome).

If you have a PC, isn't IE resident on your computer (impossible to get rid of)? Couldn't you simply open it up for that one usage? I use Firefox, and use IE for one specific email account, because IE gives me "Mark as unread" toolage, but, Firefox doesn't. So, I use IE for that specific purpose, if I need to "Mark something unread"

Has the new episode aired yet? I'm cringing already. I should've waited for the DVDs, rather than have a friend record for me each week (I'll go crazy if she misses one, that'll mess up the whole rest of the Series). Now I have to wait along with everyone else each week

I thought some more and I agree with what one or two folks have said, I agree, Jack didn't lose his immortality, just his healing.

I'm also wondering about the folks who should've died, what the rules will be for who continues to live at the end when it's all resolved. I wonder if there will be a mass die off as the situation gets fixed.

 

[Photoman15]

I have to admit, I have a PC. Someday I will dump it for the better option. But after a particularly horrific incident, I evicted IE forever. I use Firefox, sometimes Safari, and wouldn't mind checking out Chrome, but IE is a big deal-breaker. Anyway IE is less than 50% of the market now (losing out to Chrome).

If you have a PC, isn't IE resident on your computer (impossible to get rid of)? Couldn't you simply open it up for that one usage? I use Firefox, and use IE for one specific email account, because IE gives me "Mark as unread" toolage, but, Firefox doesn't. So, I use IE for that specific purpose, if I need to "Mark something unread"

That's what I do. I use Firefox, but for one website I still need to use IE. I only used IE for that site and Netflix, but now Netflix runs fine on Firefox (of course I think I had to install Silverlight for Firefox plugin).

 

[David cgc]

I thought some more and I agree with what one or two folks have said, I agree, Jack didn't lose his immortality, just his healing.

Of course, there's only one way to find out for sure, and it's the sort of thing you'd like to test.

I'm also wondering about the folks who should've died, what the rules will be for who continues to live at the end when it's all resolved. I wonder if there will be a mass die off as the situation gets fixed.

They seem to be at least paying lip-service to how technically unfeasible it is for death to just stop (the scientist mentioning how everyone dies differently, it's not just some kind of switch), so my guess is that there's some kind of mechanism that's providing continuous life support for every human on the planet (which doesn't account for Jack, but one thing at a time). In that case, when it eventually turns off, my guess is that people who are still fatally injured, like Rex may be (the doctor was ambiguous about whether his surgery would keep him alive), or the poor son of a bitch that blew himself up, will expire more or less immediately, but people who would've been killed by something more transitory, like Gwen's Dad's heart attack, or someone who poisoned like Oswald Danes will keep going like nothing ever happened, since what had been killing them had stopped.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I'm expecting lots of deaths. I'm sure when they've figured this out, that'll be a big dilemma.

BTW, my current theory.

Spoiler: theory

I like the idea of it basically being everyone on life support. My theory is that Jack is the life support. He's mortal because his power is spreading to everyone. But, because it's affecting so many people, it doesn't work as effectively. It also explains why it happened with the Torchwood email. That called Jack back, which triggered everything.

 

[Sindatur]

David cgc, yea, pretty much my take...If you've healed (IE: Not missing a heart or a large hole in your head, missing your torso...) then you should continue to live. However, Gwen's dad's Heart Attack won't be prevented from returning the following week, month, year, etc, though, only proper health will..

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I have to admit, I have a PC. Someday I will dump it for the better option. But after a particularly horrific incident, I evicted IE forever. I use Firefox, sometimes Safari, and wouldn't mind checking out Chrome, but IE is a big deal-breaker. Anyway IE is less than 50% of the market now (losing out to Chrome).

If you have a PC, isn't IE resident on your computer (impossible to get rid of)? Couldn't you simply open it up for that one usage? I use Firefox, and use IE for one specific email account, because IE gives me "Mark as unread" toolage, but, Firefox doesn't. So, I use IE for that specific purpose, if I need to "Mark something unread"

That's what I do. I use Firefox, but for one website I still need to use IE. I only used IE for that site and Netflix, but now Netflix runs fine on Firefox (of course I think I had to install Silverlight for Firefox plugin).

On a very unrelated note, I have to watch the ABCplayer with Chrome because it almost never works with FFx (3/4).

It plays the commercials OK (no surprise), but the show itself will freeze, or not play at all, even after multiple refreshes.