Those Ood, er kids, were creepy.
Torchwood: Children of Earth DAY ONE grading thread
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Very much enjoyed that last night. Dare I say... Torchwood has grown up?
Their morgue room was pretty secure. A lot more secure than their cells at any rate. I imagine a lot of the Hub will be fine and they can refurbish.
Myfanwy had better be okay though.
He was crap anyway - rubbish performance
loved it.
Not really a downside if it's all as good as this.
This may sound really weird concerning we're talking about a show regularly featuring monsters, time travel and aliens, but somehow I didn't quite buy the 'evil government tries to cover up stuff by murdering people' storyline. I'm probably naive but this is supposed to play now or in the near future and I can't really imagine the British government having procedures like 'blank page' with secretaries just knowing what it means and going along with it (must be one weird job training). Besides, I can't imagine a crime committed by the government that's big enough to kill people over it. Just look at what government officials get away with in real life (Bush administration) and what countries are forgiven after a rather short while (Japan, Germany).
Well, anyway, I enjoyed this and hope it continues that way. I really liked the personal interactions (especially Ianto's). I didn't see Rupesh being an infiltrator coming either. What a ruthless bastard, killing that Chinese man. Poor Jack, it doesn't look that good for him.
Well, anyway, I enjoyed this and hope it continues that way. I really liked the personal interactions (especially Ianto's). I didn't see Rupesh being an infiltrator coming either. What a ruthless bastard, killing that Chinese man. Poor Jack, it doesn't look that good for him.
One of the nice touches was the way people in the Whoniverse finally remember that aliens have made their presence rather spectacularly known over the past couple of years.
You think that doesn't happen in real life?
Not at all. I know people often make the... trite argument of "why can't you accept (x) in a show about monsters and aliens?!?!?" around here, but these are people who fail to understand that fantasy doesn't preclude verisimilitude.
I'm sure David Kelly would have believed it. Chortle.
Seriously though, we don't know what the context is yet.
I think it does happen, but not in Britain and not in the way it was presented here, as a rather widely known procedure.
That's true. Unless it's something really spectacular, I'll be disappointed, though. I think the British government has worked together with these aliens (and might still do, judging from bits in the trailer), possibly forcibly. Oh well, we'll see.
Well the PM did say he was nothing to do with it, wasn't consulted etc. So it's on the civil servants heads if it comes out.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is protocols for something like that to happen, and I'm not sure just how secret you could keep it either.
Davies indicated that they filmed a line directly referencing Daleks and the events of "The Stolen Earth", but decided that it felt out-of-place in Torchwood.
Is it presented as "a rather widely known procedure," though? I count three people within government who are definitely aware of the policy, plus however many operatives are involved in carrying out. I don't see any implication that "blank paging" is known in other areas of the government. There's a reason a civil servant like Mr Frobisher is discussing it directly with the PM, after all.
As for "not in Britain"... well, RTD's intention with the story is to suggest how easily the right sequence of events could cause the kind of socio-political collapse that happens in Africa all too frequently, and that Western audiences think couldn't happen here. We as viewers can take that or leave it.
If you're talking about 1965, UNIT probably didn't exist then. The timeline of UNIT is famously muddled, but the earliest it could have been formed is usually thought to be the end of the 1960s. And, of course, there may be other reasons why the government kept this to itself.
That's pretty much what I thought, too.
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