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Torchwood: Children of Earth DAY FOUR grading thread

Day Four: Cor! or Bore?

  • Get me a whore

    Votes: 53 69.7%
  • Get me a kleenex

    Votes: 20 26.3%
  • Get me a lager

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • Get me a sick bag

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Get me a shotgun

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • Total voters
    76
This has been the best Doctor Who universe event - ever. Yup, I said it. I SAID IT.

Now I'm biting my nails and hoping RTD doesn't royally fuck up the finale :lol:
 
Well, even Gwen survives presumably being pregnant is going to involve time away from Torchwood, so Jack will be alone.
I would love more Torchwood if it's all this good, but this would be a good place to end it. Then the Moff could his character back to use on Who.
 
What really got me though is that the complete anti-Who fan in the room refused to get up during the whole ep, cried at Ianto's death and - the biggie - has declared "Fuck Big Brother" and will be watching Torchwood tomorrow.

I. Have won. The war.

Ha ha. I had a similar experience, the wife is now a Torchwood fan!!! :) Just need to work on Doctor Who now......
Anything is better than BB:p
I know this is OT but was john barrowman on live and Kicking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP0jgD0POOs&feature=related

Yes, yes he was. And was so unpopular they ditched him quite early on.

and we are giving away 10% of the kids, ok its 10% from the bottom of the school league tables, but still they did it,
That makes it better? :confused:
I didnt say it made it better, but sure seems to make the people at COBRA feel better.

Are you serious? Are you that much of a fanboy that you'd cheapen what has, so far, been one of the best pieces of serious British Sci-Fi drama in a long while, just to fulfil some fanwank fantasy where Sarah Jane turns up with sonic fucking lipstick to help save the day?
im not going to say it was rubbish because Sarah Jane wasnt in it, im just wondering what she is doing, even since TSE/JE, its now nearly impossible for me not to wonder what Sarah Jane is doing during a Doctor Who or Torchwood episode.

Look like it or not Children of Earth is set in the Whoverse, and part of that is Sarah Jane Smith and her super computer Mr Smith, who along with her genius adoptive son & a couple of her sons school friends, hunt aliens.

It seems very odd that the show asks us to both be totally engaged with Whoverse, but also ask us to totally forget about one part of it, a part of it, which could be alot of help.

I think you are going to have to suspend disbelief in the case of SJ. If she had been involved, the team would have been storming Number 10 the second Kids got involved. And it limits the drama somewhat if the team are stranded without resources for 10 minutes, until Gwen points out they can all just nip over to Sarah Janes and use her Supercomputer and have a cup of tea. It serves the plot better to have her busy doing something else. And in the end there is nothing stopping RTD referring back to Children of Earth in a future episode of SJA.

Its really the same reason why Martha has to be on holiday, somewhere presumably without phones, news services, or any children whatsoever. Because if Martha was around, you can guarantee that she would have rung The Doctor and the series would have been over 15 minutes after the 456 arrived. The Doctor would have marched in, given them a bit of witty banter, zapped a few things with his sonic screwdriver then sent them on their way.

Ianto's death was almost as heart wrenching as Tosh and Owens. I wasnt that fond of him initially, but series 2 and the first 3 Days made me quite fond of him. And now he's gone too. All i can say is RTD better have some decent new characters to add to the show, because he's killed off three fifths of the reasons why i watched the show in the first place.
 
I wasn't a fan of Torchwood before, having only watched a few episodes and not got into it.

Children of Earth has been fantastic this week and I'd like to watch the previous series now.

I'd also like to see Doctor Who do a bigger story like they used to, possibly a five-nighter like this has been. I like the format.
 
^

I like the format too. I was very skeptical about a 5-day "event", but it's been executed so well that I'd be happy to see them do it again. Maybe not with the parent show though.
 
Martha's on her honeymoon - she's got more important things to do than save the children of the world. And SJS... well, frankly I don't care where she is. Or whether her series ever references this Event.

To be honest, I'm seriously entertaining the notion this Event won't have a resolution. Certainly not a happy ending for anyone. Could it be - could Children of Earth be... THE EVENT?! Let's hope everyone remembers to remain indoors!

Also I have to say how happy I am Rhys confirmed this is taking place in 2009. Because, ladies and gentlemen, that means we are FINALLY over the Whoniverse's irritating and pointless setting of being one year ahead of real life. Next series of SJA will be 2009, and Tennant's finale will be Christmas 2009. Thank fuck. Well, assuming there's much of a planet left for the Doctor to die on.
 
Also I have to say how happy I am Rhys confirmed this is taking place in 2009. Because, ladies and gentlemen, that means we are FINALLY over the Whoniverse's irritating and pointless setting of being one year ahead of real life. Next series of SJA will be 2009, and Tennant's finale will be Christmas 2009. Thank fuck. Well, assuming there's much of a planet left for the Doctor to die on.

Sorry for asking such a wanky fanboy dickhead question but:

Does this mean the events of CoE pre-date Stolen Earth/Journey's End?
 
Also I have to say how happy I am Rhys confirmed this is taking place in 2009. Because, ladies and gentlemen, that means we are FINALLY over the Whoniverse's irritating and pointless setting of being one year ahead of real life. Next series of SJA will be 2009, and Tennant's finale will be Christmas 2009. Thank fuck. Well, assuming there's much of a planet left for the Doctor to die on.
Sorry for asking such a wanky fanboy dickhead question but:

Does this mean the events of CoE pre-date Stolen Earth/Journey's End?

They're still running slightly ahead of us in the show - the newspaper Ianto picks up in Day 2 is dated September 2009.
 
Not directly, as far as I remember. If this takes place in 2009, wasn't Stolen Earth supposed to be happening in 2010? Or am I just being a retard?
 
To be honest, I'm seriously entertaining the notion this Event won't have a resolution. Certainly not a happy ending for anyone. Could it be - could Children of Earth be... THE EVENT?! Let's hope everyone remembers to remain indoors!

The nerdgasm that would result from Children of Earth being The Event would quite possibly kill me.Imagine finally seeing what happened to Unknown Male 282!
 
Not directly, as far as I remember. If this takes place in 2009, wasn't Stolen Earth supposed to be happening in 2010? Or am I just being a retard?

Well Voyage of the Damned was Christmas 2008, so I assume all of s4 was early/spring this year with CoE being a few months later. It surely can't be too long at any rate, otherwise they'd have got off their asses and recruited a medic and tech-whiz before Rupinder showed up.
 
To be honest, I'm seriously entertaining the notion this Event won't have a resolution. Certainly not a happy ending for anyone. Could it be - could Children of Earth be... THE EVENT?! Let's hope everyone remembers to remain indoors!

The nerdgasm that would result from Children of Earth being The Event would quite possibly kill me.Imagine finally seeing what happened to Unknown Male 282!

:guffaw:

I can just imagine it. The continuity announcer over the end credits tonight:

"Please remain indoors, and stay tuned for The Quiz Broadcast. But REMAIN INDOORS."
 
Not directly, as far as I remember. If this takes place in 2009, wasn't Stolen Earth supposed to be happening in 2010? Or am I just being a retard?

Well Voyage of the Damned was Christmas 2008, so I assume all of s4 was early/spring this year with CoE being a few months later. It surely can't be too long at any rate, otherwise they'd have got off their asses and recruited a medic and tech-whiz before Rupinder showed up.

I'm being a silly billy, thinking about it, it's perfectly obvious that everything broadcast after Journey's End happened *after* it.

Living in the Doctor Who universe would be shit! Big Ben smashed, planet stolen, 10% of earth's children on the verge of being kidnapped...

Makes the recession look like small potatoes.
 
Comments re the SJA and Martha do highlight the problems in expanding the Whoverse in the way it has been. In Star Trek it wouldn't matter is the Enterprise wasn't involved in something major at DS9, it's a big universe after all, but Earth, and especially the UK, is a lot smaller than the universe. I can only assume that Sarah Jane is off fighting a smaller scale threat somewhere, and as for Martha...like I give a shit! The thought of Freema doing Lois' Torchwood reveal makes me cringe!

Anyway, this whole mess is the Doctor's fault...face it Harriet Jones would still be PM if it wasn't for him, and her words in TCI have all the more relevance now. 'You're not always here, Doctor.'

Of course you have to wonder if Jones would have done anything differently? Likely she'd have given Jack and Torchwood a shot at 456...but we've seen how that turned out.

And am I the only one worried if Harry Pearce and co made it out of Thames House before the poison struck? :lol:
 
Anything is better than BB:p

Usually I'd say the same, but a lot of this series of BB has been worth it. And I thought last nights show would have made it a priority for the GF.

Yeah, me too. I was halfway expecting one at the end.

I wonder how they plan to resolve this in one episode? Or won't they? And end in a post-apocalyptic world? Maybe this is what a potential season 4 will be about?

From the trailer I'm expecting an uprising against government, but not too many dramatic long term effects. Part of the show is based in it's reality, besides whatever effects TW effects the whole Whoniverse as they insist on picking 21st century companions now.

Saying that - whatever the result, I'm in the camp that hopes it's not a happy one. A loss at the end of all of this would make a far better ending than going back to (reasonably) normal.

What I couldn't help but think... how many Prime Ministers has this Whoniverse gone through in the past few years now?
 
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