TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!
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My DE and VI 4K are coming today! Didn’t splurge on the SLV (Too expensive and the theatrical/DE versions are already long enough!) Getting excited! So glad that I didn’t upgrade to BD after all the special edition DVDs!
I would have liked a more budget-friendly set of just the three versions of the movie without all the postcards and booklet and deluxe box thing and all that, but oh well. It's TMP! 
This may have been discussed before, but why is the theatrical version listed as "unrated?"
It should be the exact same cut of the movie that officially received the G rating from the MPAA ratings board of that time.
Kor
This may have been discussed before, but why is the theatrical version listed as "unrated?"
It should be the exact same cut of the movie that officially received the G rating from the MPAA ratings board of that time.Kor
Did they add any material? I wonder if they just didn't bother to send it to the MPAA and wait for their review, so it technically would be considered unrated.This may have been discussed before, but why is the theatrical version listed as "unrated?"
My Blu Ray arrived, praise the Prophets! Didn’t get the 4k because I don’t have a 4k setup, but it’s still gonna be like a religious experience to me I’m certain. Although I did pop it in for a quick look and was rather offput by the really cheap “glistening” effect they put on the opening titles, which looks rather naff and tacky. If that’s my only complaint I’ll be fine though. This is my favourite Trek film and strangely therapeutic for me.
When TMP was submitted for a new rating for "The Director's Edition" it superseded the previous rating. It looks like Paramount has not re-submitted the theatrical cut, so it and the SLV (which may never have been submitted) are now unrated.This may have been discussed before, but why is the theatrical version listed as "unrated?"
Unrated can go either way, depending on the reason. Unrated can mean too mature for general audiences (NR) and they wanted to avoid an X, or just "not submitted." The transporter accident isn't a "G" in my mind, but barely a PG. It's only grisly in its implications, not depiction.
The original Planet of the Apes movies are far more disturbing and all but one got a G rating. Funny how standards changed over time.
The Transporter Scene alone deserves an R.
You can see the history of the age certifications that different releases of TMP have received in the UK here on the BBFC site: https://www.bbfc.co.uk/release/star-trek-the-motion-picture-q29sbgvjdglvbjpwwc0yotc1nta
Apparently for the 1979 release it originally received the "U." And then home releases continued to be certified "U" up to 2009.
Funny how the SLV is officially named "Super Long Version" instead of "Special Longer Version."
Kor
Apparently for the 1979 release it originally received the "U." And then home releases continued to be certified "U" up to 2009.
Funny how the SLV is officially named "Super Long Version" instead of "Special Longer Version."
In the UK the "U" is a specific certification that means "Universal," suitable for all audiences, not the same as not receiving a rating at all in the US.
Kor
Naaah, nowhere near an R. Hell, TWOK's eel scenes are more R worthy. That's a PG-13 movie if there ever was one.
Ahhhh gotcha. So a U is the same as a G in the US.
Agree to disagree about the transporter. TWOK absolutely R for the eel. Just disgusting, disturbing, and creepy. Not something I want to watch at all.
I'm not asking to be argumentative, but I'm just curious what makes that scene R rated to you? Especially when you consider movies of the era like Alien, Halloween, Friday the 13th, Galaxy of Terror and so on we're all rated R and absolutely appropriately so. I feel the transporter scene is tame by comparison.
I don't compare against other films. The scene is disturbing, scream and all. It could be like Alien where you don't see the horror but you hear it. Maybe that's just me and I detest horror in most forms so I'm definitely more sensitive to it than most. But, as a scene, nope. Get that garbage out of Trek.
Interesting that the DVD of the Director's Cut was U as well, so the film hasn't changed. Must just be the latest review they reappraised the transporter sequence and decided it tipped over to PG. I always thought it was borderline so it's no great surprise.
It goes both ways. TWOK used to be 15 back in the VHS days, and TV screenings always edited out the Ceti Eel leaking out of Chekov's ear, and the bloodied corpse on Regula 1. Now it's come down to 12, and 12A for cinema screenings - which means kids younger than 12 can see the film if accompanied by an adult.
It's interesting to see the differences in cultural standards on this stuff. In France both TMP and TWOK received the "Tous publics" certification which is equivalent to U/Universal/G/All Audiences/Whatever. So did Star Trek (2009), and I'm guessing probably all the other Star Trek movies in between.
The system there seems quite lenient overall. Even MPA(A) R-rated war movies will get a 'Universal (with advisory)' certification or possibly age 12. The really graphic slasher stuff might get a 16. And then sexual content is another matter; movies rated NC-17 in the US will be certified for age 12 in France. MPA(A) R for sexual content frequently gets all-ages there.
Kor
The system there seems quite lenient overall. Even MPA(A) R-rated war movies will get a 'Universal (with advisory)' certification or possibly age 12. The really graphic slasher stuff might get a 16. And then sexual content is another matter; movies rated NC-17 in the US will be certified for age 12 in France. MPA(A) R for sexual content frequently gets all-ages there.
Kor
The redemption code should upgrade your copy to 4K, as well as adding all the extra features which includes the theatrical cut.
To clarify, I’m talking about what’s being sold in the iTunes Store. If you wanted to buy just the theatrical cut, your only choice is to buy the DE so you can get the TE as a bonus feature.
Since I had bought both the theatrical and Directors Edition in the past, they still come up as separate entries in my digital library. Funnily, when I go on the bonus features of the TE, the DE bonus is still the old 480 version from 2001.
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I wonder if they never resubmitted it because nowadays a "G" rating is considered something for preschoolers, so "unrated" has better marketing cachet.
Back when the DE came out, it was stated that the intent was that it was the final cut of the movie, and the theatrical edition/SLV would never be put up for sale again. It was a bit of an accident that the TE ended up being the only one available in high definition and went to being the de facto "normal" version of the film for so long.
I just checked, and the TE is, in fact, listed as "unrated" on the 4-movie 4k set. All the my Trek movie blu-rays went to the used bookstore when I found out the 4k releases were coming, so I can't go back that far, but I'm sure it's mentioned in any old reviews or listings. Though it's not like they were ever promoting it that way; "See the original, unrated cut of Star Trek I [Clips of lightning monster, sound of transporter screaming, an innocuous line with a *bleep* over a word to make it sound like McCoy said a swear]!"
