TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!

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  1. thribs

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    Us Brits don’t get these digital copies sadly.
     
  2. Pauln6

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    My friend pointed out that in the novel, Phillips gets defragged BEFORE he fires... I hope we don't get into a Han fired first type scenario.
     
  3. Tomalak

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    It does seem deeply weird that Paramount+ is taking down content. Shouldn't it be the home for all things Star Trek?

    Imagine Disney+ taking Star Wars down off the platform.
     
  4. Indysolo

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    In a strange twist, "The Director's Edition" hasn't left Paramount+.
     
  5. Tomalak

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    Happy days!

    Did it ever arrive on P+ in the UK and Europe?
     
  6. Pauln6

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    Watched the bonus disc. Some nice stuff on there. The computer graphic section is just fun to watch. Costume tests are cool too.

    We are missing some of the key dialogue so I can see why they could not include the scene in any official cut but the scene is so cool. It might just about be possible to crib enough dialogue. All it needs is 'Kirk to Engineering' and the rest makes sense. The alternative is just to have the final section where Ilia slags off Scotty's engineers and he bites back.

    The snag with the deceased security guard isn't that he doesn't fire his phaser, which doesn't look odd at all, it's that the there is no dialogue for his obituary.

    I might have been able to vocode it - I was happy with my vocoded line for Kirk in the airlock scene - but sadly one of my laptop updates screwed with my system and I'm fairly sure my vocoder has stopped working.

    Edit: Ok so a quick look and we can kill security officer Dickerson from Savage Curtain or try to marry up that dialogue with Astrobiologist Phillips from Ultimate Computer. That might sound unnatural but worth a try.
     
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  7. Two-Bit

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    I’ve wanted to see this security guard scene for DECADES, can you describe it? I know it’s pretty short but no one has posted it online anywhere. Also read a review on the digital bits that said the Effects Test feature had a never before seen shot of the Klingon battle cruisers attacking V’ger. Is this accurate? I know there’s an effects demo reel on TMP that’s been floating around on YouTube for a few years that has some battle cruiser shots that aren’t in the movie. I’m curious if these are the shots the review mentioned and that they weren’t aware of this demo reel.
     
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    I know that a still image from the scene is on the Topps trading cards from the film and that was all I'd seen and heard about it for ages.
     
  9. Pauln6

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    Yes there are some Klingon effects with the three ships. I didn't think the special effects had been done on the security guard but he's a gonna. The only verbal rendition of Phillips I can find sounds terrible though. Dickerson is too long and bleeds into Ilia, I need a two syllable crew name starting with P, F, or M.
     
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    Mine is arriving Thursday! I forgot it was coming. Easy to happen when you have your anniversary and close and sell a house in the last week.
     
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    Amazon US is still saying it's not expected to be delivered until the 14th for some odd reason, even though it's got the same release date as ST5 and ST6, which just shipped out to me.
     
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  12. thribs

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    Still waiting for 5 and 6 here in the UK but I imagine I’ll get them soon,
     
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    Yeah, the expected date pushed to the 14th for me as well. So I shrugged my shoulders and expected it next week. This morning I got a notification it shipped. Might be supply issues.
     
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  14. Tomalak

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    Got my TMP set very late last night. It's pretty nicely done, although they've jammed the fifth disc in the UK set into a separate cardboard holder with the ephemera. I did wonder how they'd fit five discs in a box designed for three!

    The bumper stickers, postcards etc are all really nice, though the booklet is a bit of a missed opportunity.

    It still would have been nice to include a Blu-ray with the SLV as well, but otherwise it's the comprehensive release of this film that I always hoped for.
     
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    It's frustrating because I bought my current player thinking it could play 4k but at the time the other set had 4k and bluray and my TV is not 4k so I didn't worry and only played the bluray.

    Still, I never expected the SLV to get this kind of upgrade, so it's one of those things, but I'm not complaining. I will watch it soon enough!
     
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    Got a notification that mine has been shipped and expected tomorrow.
     
  17. Kor

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    I could probably look this up somewhere, but... does the new 4K disc set of movies 1 - 6 include the multiple versions of TMP? I just noticed release date was today but the site I was looking at didn't have any details on what's included.

    Kor
     
  18. Indysolo

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    That box does not have the "Special Longer Version." It has the rest.
     
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  19. Kor

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    Thanks, I just ordered the big fancy TMP set. Woo-hoo!

    Kor
     
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    Having finally seen the long-lost Engineering scene, it's so weird. In a good way.
    The camera work is different from most (all?) of the rest of the film, one long shot following the characters as they walk through the set. It occurs to me that there might've been more coverage that was lost, and that more of the movie than I'd think looks like this in the master takes. It is very repetitive about fairly basic revelations (I wonder if I detect the hand of the studio executive who needed Isaac Asimov to vouch that a "living machine" wasn't a pair of nonsense words), and I'm not sure I know how I feel about learning that Decker rephrasing Voyager's mission as "learn all that is learnable" at the end is a direct quote from the Probe. And while fairly clunky, Scotty's line about wanting to toss the probe into the trash compactor for pointing out his professional redundancy was far less clunky than it seemed on paper.

    I also looked over some of the other new bonus features. The extra effects footage of the Klingon scene, and the mockups of the lightning probe for the dailies were interesting, and, honestly, I wish there were more of the computer screen b-roll reel. Heck, even the graphing-calculator stuff we have in pixel-perfect output on-line (though, seriously, what I missed was the tactical displays of the Enterprise entering the cloud. Though, thinking it over, I realize that both of those are shown nearly full-frame with no cuts in the theatrical edition, so they're probably available in better quality in the actual movie at 4K than they would be on the 1080p bonus disc).

    Oh, and I scrubbed through a few scenes of the SLV. Unfortunately, it does use the old stereo audio mix, I was hoping they'd be able to expand the blu-ray surround sound mix to cover the extra scenes, but getting the actual visuals in full quality is still more than I ever hoped for. Interestingly, the digital matte painting added in the spacewalk scene has Kirk coming out of a different hatch than the one Spock used. I think it might've been an issue with the set not matching the "correct" place on the model closely enough, that the real mix-up might've occurred in '79 with the set being built to match the panel on the model where the DE team put it.
     
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