Timeline proof.
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Which is why I’ll never understand people who get their panties in a wad when I tell them that SNW takes place in an alternate universe from TOS. I can just imagine their heads exploding with self-righteousness when they tell me I’m wrong, because my opinion of a fictional tv show somehow becomes the rallying cry of the CBS line toters who suddenly care about how I choose to interpret the show.
The moment SNW Season 2 Episode 3 said:
"And that's the way it is!", to quote Walter Cronkite.
The Temporal War led to a change in when the Eugenics Wars happened, that ended the debate for me once and for all. If it changed one thing, butterfly effect, it changed other things too.
So I now consider it a dead argument. And anyone still getting behind a rally cry to say otherwise is doing so out of habit instead of looking at what was actually said on-screen.
So I now consider it a dead argument. And anyone still getting behind a rally cry to say otherwise is doing so out of habit instead of looking at what was actually said on-screen.
"And that's the way it is!", to quote Walter Cronkite.
Probably because it’s factually wrong.
You can say “I like to imagine that…” or “It makes more sense to me if…”
But if you make a declarative statement that is objectively wrong, well…people are likely to say something.
There’s a lot of hyperbole here as well. I don’t see many people having the kind of emotional reaction you describe here.
But in the end, yes, it doesn’t matter. It’s all pretend.
Probably because it’s factually wrong.
You can say “I like to imagine that…” or “It makes more sense to me if…”
But if you make a declarative statement that is objectively wrong, well…people are likely to say something.
There’s a lot of hyperbole here as well. I don’t see many people having the kind of emotional reaction you describe here.
But in the end, yes, it doesn’t matter. It’s all pretend.
Please explain to me how I’m factually and objectively wrong. And also, please tell me how you’re aware of what other people have said to me about my opinions.
But you’re correct about one thing: it IS all pretend.
For one thing, the fact that the Eugenics Wars now happened after the 1990s (yes, it's a spoiler, so shoot me) means that it's a changed timeline. But that's just trivia. Here's what's not trivia: If SNW leads into TOS as is, then it does a disservice to all the female characters in SNW. Big Time.
And with all the time travel going on, there's going to be changes. Science-Fiction 101.
And with all the time travel going on, there's going to be changes. Science-Fiction 101.
Yep. It’s pretty hard to reconcile that, say, Jess Bush’s version of Chapel is suddenly going to morph into Majel Barrett’s version of Chapel in just a few years. Or that SNW T’Pring turns into the one-dimensional, conniving bitch we saw in ‘Amok Time.’ Pike is already so far removed from what we saw in ‘The Cage’ that it’s pretty laughable to say that they’re the same guy.
and yet we have Boimler stepping onto the SNW Enterprise and not batting an eye at anything he sees. To him, everything is as it should be. Plus, we have Spock's work on Vulcan/Romulan reunification being a pretty major plot point in the later seasons of Discovery.
Sure, and someone who can't stand the idea that it's all the same timeline will claim that "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" means they're separate timelines.
It's all fiction. The concept of "proof" is inapplicable.
Ab
Absolutely true, and we've also seen events and people being repeated more or less in similar ways in different timelines. Its even been stated in an episode how the timeline continues to correct itself after events have been changed.
yes by the 24th century the ripples of both timelines have smoothed out and are virtually identical. Time is a river and throwing a rock into it disrupts it only briefly. This makes perfect sense in Trek, because, since they can visit the future, it's already there and thus has a lot of temporal inertia. It takes either a very big rock or an extremely well placed one.
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