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Spoilers Timeless Season 2 - SPOILERS

Sadly, I don't have much hope that the new Rittenhouse will be any scarier than the old one. The format of the show will stay the same: Rittenhouse tries to change history and our heroes stop them. The "reasons" for changing history will change but that's about it.

I suspect that you're probably right. It would be neat if they switched the format up a bit if they come back next season. Perhaps Rittenhouse finally succeeds at changing history and the Time Team have to figure out how to get time back to how it should be--or closer to it.
 
I suspect that you're probably right. It would be neat if they switched the format up a bit if they come back next season. Perhaps Rittenhouse finally succeeds at changing history and the Time Team have to figure out how to get time back to how it should be--or closer to it.

And if the show doesn't come back does that mean Rittenhouse won and removed all traces of the battle from history? :)
 
One thing that "Timeless" seems to share with other time travel shows is a lack of understanding that you're dealing with time travel here. Why the urgency? Why not fix the lifeboat right? Why not charge it fully? 1888 isn't going anywhere.
 
And nuance is one thing Emma does not possess, as we saw here. She's just blam, blam, kill everyone who gets in her way. It's hard to imagine what her agenda is, beyond just personal power. So it's hard to see where a third season would go.

It occurred to me that the coup might be a good way to not just reset Rittenhouse but to get rid of Rittenhouse completely. Lucy's mom made a big deal in the finale about how Rittenhouse is about family lineage. Lucy had Rittenhouse blood as did her grandfather, the 1918 guy. But that is not the case for Jessica or Emma. They are recruits into Rittenhouse but are not Rittenhouse by blood. They are less likely to care about Rittenhouse as some family tradition that they need to maintain. Instead, they could choose to use the time machine for their own purposes, different from Rittenhouse's.
 
One thing that "Timeless" seems to share with other time travel shows is a lack of understanding that you're dealing with time travel here. Why the urgency? Why not fix the lifeboat right? Why not charge it fully? 1888 isn't going anywhere.

Except the show established right off the bat that the Mothership and the Lifeboat are always synchronized. As long as one or both are in the past, then events proceed at the same pace for all the characters. Which is a necessary plot conceit, otherwise the timeline would change the instant the Mothership went back and the heroes would have no chance to stop it. It also vaguely makes a sort of sense if there is a connection between the two ships, enabling the Lifeboat to follow the Mothership to whatever era it visits.

Although I noticed here that they broke that rule. Normally, they get an alert as soon as the Mothership goes back and thus arrive only a matter of minutes behind them, so they have time to foil the plans before they happen. But here, in the first half, Emma went back in the Mothership to give the sleeper the history book, telling him of a raid that I think she said was the following day, but when the good guys got the alert and rushed back in time, it was after the raid and they were already too late. So they cheated there.


It occurred to me that the coup might be a good way to not just reset Rittenhouse but to get rid of Rittenhouse completely. Lucy's mom made a big deal in the finale about how Rittenhouse is about family lineage. Lucy had Rittenhouse blood as did her grandfather, the 1918 guy. But that is not the case for Jessica or Emma. They are recruits into Rittenhouse but are not Rittenhouse by blood. They are less likely to care about Rittenhouse as some family tradition that they need to maintain. Instead, they could choose to use the time machine for their own purposes, different from Rittenhouse's.

Ooh, I would like that. I'm sick to death of hearing the name "Rittenhouse."
 
Isn't it handy that they just happened to have someone who could read Klingon?

Not really. It was a message from Priya to Rufus. She presumably knew her boyfriend could read Klingon, which is why she used it in the first place. It's not as though she was crossing her fingers and hoping that somebody on the Time Team knew Klingon.
 
^Jiya, not Priya. But yeah, the Klingon thing was a callback to what season 1 had already established about Rufus's fannish interests. I think there was a time last season when it went the other way -- Rufus in the past left a Star Wars-based clue that he knew Jiya would be able to decipher. I think the gag was that he's a Trekkie and she's a, err, Warsie, so they had to open up to each other's interests in the course of becoming a couple.
 
One thing that "Timeless" seems to share with other time travel shows is a lack of understanding that you're dealing with time travel here. Why the urgency? Why not fix the lifeboat right? Why not charge it fully? 1888 isn't going anywhere.
Yeah, I noticed that too. There was the rush when it didn't seem needed.

I also didn't think it was realistic that the lifeboat could be hidden under some trees and bushed for 130 years. No way! Someone would've run across it at some point.
 
Not going to miss Evil Great-Granddad, btw. This was a fun season, but, yeah, he was a bit of damp squib as a menace.
 
It occurred to me that the coup might be a good way to not just reset Rittenhouse but to get rid of Rittenhouse completely. Lucy's mom made a big deal in the finale about how Rittenhouse is about family lineage. Lucy had Rittenhouse blood as did her grandfather, the 1918 guy. But that is not the case for Jessica or Emma. They are recruits into Rittenhouse but are not Rittenhouse by blood. They are less likely to care about Rittenhouse as some family tradition that they need to maintain. Instead, they could choose to use the time machine for their own purposes, different from Rittenhouse's.

Actually, a story arc regarding Emma and Jessica taking Rittenhouse to a new direction, while one of them is pregnant sounds more interesting to me.
 
Good episode all told, though. I liked having Jiya on the mission. In truth, they all looked good in the 80's clothes, but yet again they don't bother to do anything to Wyatt's hair to make him blend into the time they travel to.
Works for the most of the 20th and 21st Century. Kind of a standard soldiers cut. Prior to that it's a bit of a problem. It really stood out in the 1860's.
 
Rittenbitch was the best word uttered in the final episode. I guess the writers got tired of Rittenhouse as well and just let Emma do her thing.
 
Although I noticed here that they broke that rule. Normally, they get an alert as soon as the Mothership goes back and thus arrive only a matter of minutes behind them, so they have time to foil the plans before they happen. But here, in the first half, Emma went back in the Mothership to give the sleeper the history book, telling him of a raid that I think she said was the following day, but when the good guys got the alert and rushed back in time, it was after the raid and they were already too late. So they cheated there.

It still works within the rules they have set up. We know there is a degree of skill involved in landing the time machine exactly when you want it. Rufus just missed by a day this time.
 
It still works within the rules they have set up. We know there is a degree of skill involved in landing the time machine exactly when you want it. Rufus just missed by a day this time.

I'm pretty sure the usual rule is that the Mothership and the Lifeboat are synchronized in time relative to each other -- which is the only thing that gives the heroes the chance to go back in time and stop their foes from changing history, otherwise it would kick in instantly. So the premise of the show depends on the idea that as long as the Mothership is in the past, its occupants and the heroes are experiencing the same passage of time. If it takes the heroes an hour to get ready and go back after they get the alert, then they arrive an hour after the Mothership did. That's what season 1 established, so if it's now working the way you say, then the show has changed its own rules, as I said.
 
I'm pretty sure the usual rule is that the Mothership and the Lifeboat are synchronized in time relative to each other -- which is the only thing that gives the heroes the chance to go back in time and stop their foes from changing history, otherwise it would kick in instantly. So the premise of the show depends on the idea that as long as the Mothership is in the past, its occupants and the heroes are experiencing the same passage of time. If it takes the heroes an hour to get ready and go back after they get the alert, then they arrive an hour after the Mothership did. That's what season 1 established, so if it's now working the way you say, then the show has changed its own rules, as I said.
Nah, they've made a big deal in how important the driver is throughout the series. It's not as simple as being synchronized. If it was truly synchronized in the way you suggest, they should be able to push a button and it would return to the proper time.

And, the question about changes to history not immediately affecting the present has always been a problem in the series. Obviously, if the change was made in say 1800, it'll have already long since happened in 2018. There's no time to react to it in that sense. But, I think it's just one of those things we have to accept to allow the series to work.

However, letting that go, suppose the bad guys go to January 1st, 1800 at 3pm. If the good guys wait an hour, they can still set the time machine to return to that same day at 3pm. Or shoot, even 2pm! Or the day before!
 
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