Three Years Ago Today!

[Lord Garth]

Three years ago today (it's 11:00 PM as I type this, so I'm barely getting this in on time), the sixth live-action Star Trek series was first announced!

Season 1 was a great ride and I can't wait for Season 2.

 

[Roald]

Can’t believe it’s already three years!

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Man, I'd forgotten that The Orville announcement happened that long ago. Seems like only yesterday. Happy 3rd, Seth and crew!

 

[Vger23]

Man, I'd forgotten that The Orville announcement happened that long ago. Seems like only yesterday. Happy 3rd, Seth and crew!

Hilarious.

No really, very clever. And funny.

 

[Ovation]

Hilarious.

No really, very clever. And funny.

Of course, as Spinal Tap made clear, “there’s a fine line between clever...and stupid”.

 

[thribs]

I look forward to it finally coming out.

 

[Lord Garth]

I don't think the Picard Series will be as Berman-tastic as some of you are hoping for. If you want '90s Trek back, you're going to be in for as big of a disappointment as those who wanted '60s Trek back.

Temper your expectations is all I'm saying if that's what some of you want.

 

[Tuskin38]

Man, I'd forgotten that The Orville announcement happened that long ago. Seems like only yesterday. Happy 3rd, Seth and crew!

Buzz off

 

[F. King Daniel]

Who can forget that awful 2016 SDCC trailer and it's PS2 graphics.

Thank god things improved.

 

[Lord Garth]

I figured it was a demo and was glad to hear that was the case. But it didn't really matter that much to me, to be honest. I was excited about the fact that they were putting the design from Planet of the Titans to use. I first saw the sketches of it back in 1995. While I was glad it wasn't the Enterprise, I always thought that design was just asking to be used somewhere.

 

[Rahul]

I don't think the Picard Series will be as Berman-tastic as some of you are hoping for. If you want '90s Trek back, you're going to be in for as big of a disappointment as those who wanted '60s Trek back.

Temper your expectations is all I'm saying if that's what some of you want.

Oh, I doubt even the most ardent Picard/post-NEM-enthusiasts (like, for example, me) want the Berman-era 90s Trek back. That was great, but it had it's time.

We want a new direction for Trek as well! It's just - DIS, while being marginally "new", took a different direction, one I'm not too fond of. They essentially tried to do the "serious" war drama of DS9, but with the fluff story-plotting, writing and direction of the Kelvinmovies - those two didn't mesh well.

Judging by the trailers for S2 of DIS, they seem to have radically course corrected: The traditional elements (klingons, D7) now looked traditional again, but the main plot is focused on a NEW mystery! Not some rehashed Trek tropes like Klingons/Mirror Universe. That's great! Notice also there is not a single weapon fired in the S2 trailers! A drastic shift from the battle-tastic first season.

In fact, judging purely from the presentation in the trailer - I really wouldn't mind the Picard show to be somewhat similar in style and presentation. It's a fine line: We also want "new", we just weren't very fond of this particular iteration of "new".

Who can forget that awful 2016 SDCC trailer and it's PS2 graphics.

Thank god things improved.

Sadly, that horrible rough cgi-model still served as the basis for the final Discovery model. And it shows. Despite the later added high-def details, the basic shape still looks like a rush-job for a too-close deadline (namely, the Comic Con presentation).

The sad part is, in the Eaglemoss magazine for the Disco-model, you could see renders for a much better, much higher quality Discovery CGI model on the last pages! It just seems they didn't manage to finish the higher quality model on time - and instead used the modified teaser-version in their show, while the much superiour model was sitting half-finished somewhere on a shelf...

 

[Lord Garth]

Oh, I doubt even the most ardent Picard/post-NEM-enthusiasts (like, for example, me) want the Berman-era 90s Trek back. That was great, but it had it's time.

We want a new direction for Trek as well! It's just - DIS, while being marginally "new", took a different direction, one I'm not too fond of. They essentially tried to do the "serious" war drama of DS9, but with the fluff story-plotting, writing and direction of the Kelvinmovies - those two didn't mesh well.

Judging by the trailers for S2 of DIS, they seem to have radically course corrected: The traditional elements (klingons, D7) now looked traditional again, but the main plot is focused on a NEW mystery! Not some rehashed Trek tropes like Klingons/Mirror Universe. That's great! Notice also there is not a single weapon fired in the S2 trailers! A drastic shift from the battle-tastic first season.

In fact, judging purely from the presentation in the trailer - I really wouldn't mind the Picard show to be somewhat similar in style and presentation. It's a fine line: We also want "new", we just weren't very fond of this particular iteration of "new".

Fair enough regarding your points about DSC.

As far as the Picard Series, I get a feeling it won't be much like DSC S1 or S2. Another war would be overkill, so that rules out being like DSC S1. As far as the "adventure", I like to think the Picard Series will go more intellectual. A cerebral, intellectual story over the course of a season in a serialized format. They've already gone out of their way to say the Picard Series won't be like Discovery (regardless of the season), and I imagine they want to get as far away from Rambo Picard as possible... so I think different is exactly what we'll get.

 

[Rahul]

I like to think the Picard Series will go more intellectual. An cerebral, intellectual story over the course of a season in a serialized format.

I really, really doubt that's going to happen. Simply by virtue of the people actually making it.

Trust me, I also would prefer a more cerebral Picard show. But that's not what we are going to get. We are going to get a Picard show, made by the same people that made Discovery and the Kelvin movies. Sure, they will try to make it different. The same way J-J- Abrams tried to make "Into Darkness" different from ST09. But its going to be an action romp regardless. These people simply don't see Trek as anything else, especially not as drama. It's an action property for them. They are going to insert more speeches (because that's what Picard is known for), and give it a bit of a different visual overcoat. But it's going to follow the action-formula, like every other property - hell, even every other Trek property - these peple have ever worked on.

 

[dinzy]

Fair enough regarding your points about DSC.

As far as the Picard Series, I get a feeling it won't be much like DSC S1 or S2. Another war would be overkill, so that rules out being like DSC S1. As far as the "adventure", I like to think the Picard Series will go more intellectual. An cerebral, intellectual story over the course of a season in a serialized format. They've already gone out of their way to say the Picard Series won't be like Discovery (regardless of the season), and I imagine they want to get as far away from Rambo Picard as possible... so I think different is exactly what we'll get.

TPTB explicitly said that each show will have it's own distinct flavor. Lower Decks is obviously nothing like DSC, but do they mean Picard will be Pepsi to DSC's Coke or will it be more like a red wine? I am not sure how different it will be or what this people think different means. I assume it has to be at least 25% different.

 

[Lord Garth]

I assume it has to be at least 25% different.

So, mathematically, by the time we get to tenth series, it'll be 100%.

 

[Kor]

Man, I'd forgotten that The Orville announcement happened that long ago. Seems like only yesterday. Happy 3rd, Seth and crew!

Kor

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I assume it has to be at least 25% different.

That theory has already been disproven.

 

[Noname Given]

I really, really doubt that's going to happen. Simply by virtue of the people actually making it.

Trust me, I also would prefer a more cerebral Picard show. But that's not what we are going to get. We are going to get a Picard show, made by the same people that made Discovery and the Kelvin movies. Sure, they will try to make it different. The same way J-J- Abrams tried to make "Into Darkness" different from ST09. But its going to be an action romp regardless. These people simply don't see Trek as anything else, especially not as drama. It's an action property for them. They are going to insert more speeches (because that's what Picard is known for), and give it a bit of a different visual overcoat. But it's going to follow the action-formula, like every other property - hell, even every other Trek property - these peple have ever worked on.

IDK - Unless it DOES turn into a Flashback show, or a show where Picard sets something up, and other new main characters deal with the situation; at 78, I don't think you'll see Patrick Stewart up for a lot of running around or major action sequences.

 

[Kor]

IDK - Unless it DOES turn into a Flashback show, or a show where Picard sets something up, and other new main characters deal with the situation; at 78, I don't think you'll see Patrick Stewart up for a lot of running around or major action sequences.

They could do a Dooku. The tech is probably cheap enough to use for television by now.

Kor

 

[Lord Garth]

80-year-old Picard doing a bunch of action scenes will look ridiculous and it will make the series look ridiculous. A series where the lead is this age should be about something else.